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That doesn't make sense. They are releasing basically the same updates on both but Gen 1 doesn't get the turn signals that are basically already there but only when you use hwy assist...
They are not basically the same. The results you see may make it look that way, but they are programing for a completely different architectures on Gen 2.
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They are not basically the same. The results you see may make it look that way, but they are programing for a completely different architectures on Gen 2.
Except that the infotainment architecture is exactly the same...so all that likely can remain very similar if not straight up same.

The updated architecture is mostly going to benefit ADAS functions eventually. Hopefully alot more than turn signal assists.
 

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Except that the infotainment architecture is exactly the same...so all that likely can remain very similar if not straight up same.

The updated architecture is mostly going to benefit ADAS functions eventually. Hopefully alot more than turn signal assists.
Infotainment is largely the same, but not identical. But regardless, the multitude of ECUs that actually run the software that makes things happen are all 100% different. Not a single similarity between the two. Same with the ADAS.
 

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Infotainment is largely the same, but not identical. But regardless, the multitude of ECUs that actually run the software that makes things happen are all 100% different. Not a single similarity between the two. Same with the ADAS.
That could be. I don't feel like digging into the actual info....just that I recall that infotainment was same. Maybe it isn't identical.
 

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That could be. I don't feel like digging into the actual info....just that I recall that infotainment was same. Maybe it isn't identical.
Well, if you are going to argue a point, “show us the data”.

I suspect the difference in processors, the zonal architecture with less ECUs impacts the s/w development, testing.

But, yes, it seems like if we stick with the G1 R1, we will be missing out on many improvements.
 

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Well, if you are going to argue a point, “show us the data”.

I suspect the difference in processors, the zonal architecture with less ECUs impacts the s/w development, testing.

But, yes, it seems like if we stick with the G1 R1, we will be missing out on many improvements.
I'm not arguing the point. Just stating it. Also said maybe I am wrong. Just recall seeing others say G1 and G2 share the same capabilites regarding infotainment.

So all good by me. If G2 infotainment processor is vastly improved that is good, because I think it should have been improved with all the other changes that were made in G2...as that would be valuable in future.
 

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I don't get why the smart turn signals only seem to be for the Gen 2, Gen 1s should absolutely be able to do that, they do it when you're on "autopilot" and you switch lanes...
If I had to guess it has to do with the quality of the cameras and sensors. They must have some reason to believe that the functionality will be more accurate in Gen 2 than in Gen 1.
 

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Except that the infotainment architecture is exactly the same...so all that likely can remain very similar if not straight up same.

The updated architecture is mostly going to benefit ADAS functions eventually. Hopefully alot more than turn signal assists.
Infotainment and driving dynamics would have to be separate. So because the infotainment stack is shared, improvements can easily be made on both generations. But driving dynamics starts to deal with the control modules and therefore very different architecture.
 

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I'm not arguing the point. Just stating it. Also said maybe I am wrong. Just recall seeing others say G1 and G2 share the same capabilites regarding infotainment.

So all good by me. If G2 infotainment processor is vastly improved that is good, because I think it should have been improved with all the other changes that were made in G2...as that would be valuable in future.
Fair enough. IMO any opposing perspective, response is an argument. But, it does not always equate, to me, to a confrontational, negative mindset, more so a learning opportunity.
 

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Fair enough. IMO any opposing perspective, response is an argument. But, it does not always equate, to me, to a confrontational, negative mindset, more so a learning opportunity.
True. I probably should have just said to whoever posted that G2 infotainment processors/s are very different from G1 infotainment processor/s to show their work in the first place.
 

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I'm not arguing the point. Just stating it. Also said maybe I am wrong. Just recall seeing others say G1 and G2 share the same capabilites regarding infotainment.

So all good by me. If G2 infotainment processor is vastly improved that is good, because I think it should have been improved with all the other changes that were made in G2...as that would be valuable in future.
To be clear, G2 infotainment is not vastly improved by any stretch of the imagination. Different... Yes. Better... Meh.
 

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They are not basically the same. The results you see may make it look that way, but they are programing for a completely different architectures on Gen 2.
I do understand that, I was referring to the post saying they don't have the man power for Gen1 when they obviously have people working on updates for Gen1 that are similar to Gen 2
If I had to guess it has to do with the quality of the cameras and sensors. They must have some reason to believe that the functionality will be more accurate in Gen 2 than in Gen 1.
I would agree with that point completely If it didn’t have that capability, but Gen 1s already do that when you’re using Highway Assist and use your blinkers to switch lanes. It will stay on and automatically turn off when you’re done switching.

I’m sure there’s a reason, just doesn’t make sense without that specific explanation as to what’s different from what it can already do while on a “specific mode”
 

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I do understand that, I was referring to the post saying they don't have the man power for Gen1 when they obviously have people working on updates for Gen1 that are similar to Gen 2
That's my point. They are not that similar, and the majority of their efforts are, and will continue to be, focused on Gen 2. The only meaningful updates that Gen 1 will see from now on will be infotainment related, as it requires the least amount of duplicated effort.
 

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I'm not arguing the point. Just stating it. Also said maybe I am wrong. Just recall seeing others say G1 and G2 share the same capabilites regarding infotainment.

So all good by me. If G2 infotainment processor is vastly improved that is good, because I think it should have been improved with all the other changes that were made in G2...as that would be valuable in future.
Same lipstick, different pig.
 

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Same lipstick, different pig.
Are you saying the infotainment or my comment they are same and saying it isn't an argument?

Edit...either way I know I read or heard they are same or very similar and that from an infotainment standpoint...owners shouldn't expect large differences between G1 and G2.

But that could be entirely wrong and maybe G2 has many times the processor power for infotainment...not actually sure.
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