Farewell

[Cashcc]

I think I’d get tired of constantly looking at Rivian tail lights

Best one yet.... well played sir

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[CrazyOne]

I want to think that Chevy is an alternative. But my local Chevy dealer is terrible, and is run together with Kia and Mazda dealerships. I wouldn't buy a Mazda for the same reason. Great car, terrible dealers.

GM EVs don't have good reliability yet, afaik. Our next purchase is a few years out.

 

[DuoRivian]

Same here. Traded my '22 R1T for a Silverado EV Trail Boss. Favorite vehicle so far. I loved my Rivian but like the OP got tired of the noises, clanks, HVAC floods and having to wait 2 months for service. This forum has completely turned south over the past 3 years with haters. Be happy someone found a vehicle they like and it's an EV. Get over it.

I think you are the hater by staying on here and after getting rid of your Rivian you continue to post and disparage.

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

I want to think that Chevy is an alternative. But my local Chevy dealer is terrible, and is run together with Kia and Mazda dealerships. I wouldn't buy a Mazda for the same reason. Great car, terrible dealers.

GM EVs don't have good reliability yet, afaik. Our next purchase is a few years out.

Our Chevy dealer by us is terrible. I’d stay away from them.

That said, when my bolt had the battery issue and Chevy’s solution was to charge 20-80 a park outside because they didn’t have batteries available, I lost my mind. Called their corporate folks and they worked with me. Got a new battery and they paid for every month of my car payment during which the battery replacement was not available (was many months). Was actually pretty decent.

 

[CrazyOne]

Our Chevy dealer by us is terrible. I’d stay away from them.

That said, when my bolt had the battery issue and Chevy’s solution was to charge 20-80 a park outside because they didn’t have batteries available, I lost my mind. Called their corporate folks and they worked with me. Got a new battery and they paid for every month of my car payment during which the battery replacement was not available (was many months). Was actually pretty decent.

This is part of the problem. Dealers talk about manufacturer as a third party. You never have a direct contact with manufacturer, unless you escalate things and I don't have the time for it. They don't pay the techs and good ones don't stay.

Acura dealers were in general much better. They pushed BS service items, but never damaged car(2 times with 2 different Mazda dealers) or screwed up a basic brake job(sticky brake, safety issue). Rivian techs seem better trained. The one I spoke was a car guy and drove a WRX.

 

[hammick]

We have both. Both are great vehicles. I wish my SEV had the Rivian UI though and digital key. And I wish our Rivian had the charging speed of the SEV.

 

[Zorg]

So while technology continues to advance you may want to pump the brakes there a bit. The most pressing issue with EV batteries is cooling during charging, which is a factor of energy being dumped into it over time and as far as I'm aware there isn't any earthshattering technological breakthrough lurking in that particular area. It tends to work against energy density too actually. There's some part of '1 MW charging' that's just a marketing gimmick because while the peak rate might actually be 1 MW, it's a question of how long it can hold it. Once the battery is heat soaked the charging rate has to drop to be in line with how much the cooling system can shed. So while you can speed the run-up to the thermal limit, ultimately you only save a couple minutes over a 350kW charger. It's the same reason why charging rates on 800V systems aren't fantastically better than 400V ones. Better, yes, because they can support a higher initial charging spike, but they can't sustain that either. Maybe when someone makes a practical solid state battery.

Some of the design considerations that make strides in fast charging work are also antithetical to markets like the US, where people demand much larger vehicles with much larger batteries for their trombone repair businesses that city drivers generally don't care about, which limits cooling ability by making the battery pack denser. Then the cost and difficulty of putting multi-megawatt installations will keep that from being common long after it may be a sales feature in cars, especially where the local grid has to be upgraded to support it.

All of that stuff is a reason why you have some makes like Nissan switching down from 800V to 400V. It costs a lot to have that capability that is very rarely actually used.

I don't really need megawatt charging but I would love the new Cayenne charge rate. 15 mins 10-80 is the sweet spot. Just long enough to pee and/or get coffee. I don't have a need for 5mns charging.

I believe that the Cayenne has dual cooling plates which allows a higher and longer charge rate. Frankly, I hope that Rivian improves the thermals on the R2.

 

[carsly]

I once had a goldfish…

 

[2kwik4u]

Rivian techs seem better trained. The one I spoke was a car guy and drove a WRX.

Local techs here have a modified BMW, and a modified Mini Cooper. You can tell they're "car guys" by the way they talk, and genuine concern to fix an issue properly.

Had a weird "groan" on full acceleration. Tech called and said he couldn't duplicate it. I asked if he was willing to ride along with me when I duplicated it. Absolutely. Service center is 20min from the office, so I drove over and we test drove the truck together. I duplicated the issue almost instantly, he understood and got back to work.

Only only place I've had service or that level of "give a shit" from a tech is from private/independent shops that specialize in high end vehicles. They were also full of techs that were "car guys" first.

 

[cwintermeyer]

Best of luck, especially with a Chevy/GM. Why the need for attention with a post like this. You know the way the responses are going to go, and comes off way more like a cry for attention than anything else.

Enjoy your new toy.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Local techs here have a modified BMW, and a modified Mini Cooper. You can tell they're "car guys" by the way they talk, and genuine concern to fix an issue properly.

Had a weird "groan" on full acceleration. Tech called and said he couldn't duplicate it. I asked if he was willing to ride along with me when I duplicated it. Absolutely. Service center is 20min from the office, so I drove over and we test drove the truck together. I duplicated the issue almost instantly, he understood and got back to work.

Only only place I've had service or that level of "give a shit" from a tech is from private/independent shops that specialize in high end vehicles. They were also full of techs that were "car guys" first.

I have had a similar experience with Rivian techs. The ones I've met seem to care about cars and do this work because they enjoy it.

 

[Cosworth]

In my experience, GM doesn't care about their EVs when it comes to service. I currently have a 2017 Volt (yeah, not pure EV), and it took me 13 months to get a replacement EGR valve when the car failed on an out-of-state trip. The nearest dealer with a tech that was even allowed to look at it tried to convince me that mice had chewed up both the high and low voltage harnesses. For months, the dealer and GM kept passing the blame off on each other(Dealer: GM's union factory workers are at fault, unions bad)(GM-corporate: The dealer is the only one who knows if GM-corporate has bothered to have the part produced), and GM was super shady on whether or not they'd reimburse me for a long-term rental (since the dealer refused to provide a loaner).

https://www.gm-volt.com/threads/2017s-egr-valve-left-me-stranded-on-an-out-of-state-trip.347393/

In the end, I patched it with part of a can of peanut butter and this message:

Mine was $450ish, iirc. Though, it could be $0.02 or $2,000,000.00, but it doesn't really matter if they're not actually producing them. I'm at about the 10 month mark in waiting for mine, and there's still no signs of it showing up. Meanwhile, Rivian has announced the R2/R3/R3X, and I'm REALLY eager for that last one. Gonna keep my Volt working with its valve unplugged and my homemade EGR-delete plate installed until the R3X is available, then I'll probably trade it in.

 

[Christopher1000]

I hope your EX90 experience is better than everyone else's that I know who has owned one. Their software and reliability has been next level bad.
https://www.reddit.com/r/VolvoEX90/

I'm not in here to promote Volvo's and dis Rivians, but the over the top cheer leading on here and trying to cancel people who have different views is absurdly immature. I was on a Rivian wait list for 2-3 years before launch and owned a low VIN R1T for 3.5 years. I still have more invested in Rivian stock than most. Rivians software had as many problems as Volvo with their EX90 their first launch year, including mine. I'm not going to bash Rivian here because it was a great truck.

 

[Christopher1000]

Hold on now. We can’t cite to Reddit only when we want to lol. Everyone here says that the Rivian Reddit is a mess and full of complainers that do not represent the average Rivian experience.

Same for Volvo.

Well my EX90 hasn't bricked yet, like my Rivian did about once per year (where it had to be taken in a flat bed). The windows go up and down, unlike a period where my Rivians wouldn't (on a long rainy trip).

Enough with the immature comments on here, you all sound like a bunch of 8 year old boys fantasizing about a car they can't afford.

 

[Christopher1000]

EX90 is over $80K and I disagree the car market over $60K has been booming the last 2 years. Without the R1 there would be no R2 and without the R2 there won't be an R3.

Who said any industry was booming? Who said anything negative about the R1? What are you even taking about?

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