Late 2021 preorder deliveries

[Craigins]

Well, if you insist on speculating on things none of us know for sure, here it goes:

1) All Canadian preorders are pushed out (I don't know how large the % of total but there seems to be sufficient number) - Rivian has yet to or just filed for homologation for Canadian sales. I've read that September 2022 is the target to start delivery in Canada.

2) I have always believed that T orders have priority because Rivian is competing with Ford and GM for eTruck, since almost everyone with T has reservation with F and GM.

3) If you populate Ts into metropolitan areas that are historically high volume truck market (did you know that SoCal is the number 1 pickup truck market in US?) so that exposure can help market Rivian trucks.

4) As commonly mentioned, service center is important factor too for all the obvious reasons.

5) Whatever batch they made at any given time when to those that had that particular configuration in (3) above.

So there you go.... YMMV/kWh

So I fall into the positive side of your 2-5, and still have an October - November window.

T order, ~15 miles from a service center, in a metropolitan area, and I got my guide as they were batching LG/FE.

The 20" darks are the only standout.

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[mkg3]

So I fall into the positive side of your 2-5, and still have an October - November window.

T order, ~15 miles from a service center, in a metropolitan area, and I got my guide as they were batching LG/FE.

The 20" darks are the only standout.

Like I said, as long as we're speculating stuff none of us know....

What happens if you asked your guide a different wheel size??? You probably already have?

 

[goldburger]

I have a conspiracy theory that the 21” wheel thing is based on some sort of regulation that X amount of the vehicles produced have to meet that range in order for them to advertise that as the range of the vehicle. In other words they can’t just make some completely undesirable option that gets higher range and then sell none of them and keep claiming 314 miles. If all the trucks built were on 20s they’d have to publish the range as 280 miles.

this is correct.

 

[Mike TDM]

It's not rocket science....

1. Configurations that match what they are actually building lots of (black interior, large battery, 4-motor, adventure pack, no reinforced under-tray, 21" wheels, with motorized tonneau)
2. Near a service center so "adjusting" their early production issues is less costly to Rivian.

Insist on the configs that are either flat out not being built (light interior, XL battery, 2-motor) or an option that is being built but have higher backlog (eg: 20" wheels), or remove something that is on all the trucks they are building (motorized tonneau) and you will wait longer.

If your not near a service center, that's just bad luck. But good for Rivian to prioritize those that are. IMHO it is crucial they control costs as quickly and effectively as possible for long term survival.

I am absolutely thrilled with my truck, and have zero regrets about going with for instance 21" tires to get my delivery bumped WAY up.

11/21 order and still waiting but I ordered all the "wrong" options to make me wait longer and I don't live close to a SC so I just sit and wait because I want what I ordered. I am excited to get it but for me - when it gets delivered it gets delivered.

 

[Craigins]

Like I said, as long as we're speculating stuff none of us know....

What happens if you asked your guide a different wheel size??? You probably already have?

21"s aren't going to cut it when I have to drive through 1-2 feet of snow on private roads. So they aren't an option.

I did ask what was holding it up, and mentioned not seeing many 20" being delivered. His response was that he doesn't get to the factory floor much to look, he is focused on delivering trucks. Completely avoiding the question.

Apparently he's just not focused on delivering a truck to me.

 

[TollKeeper]

I am a Jan 22 order, and have only 2 add ons.. Charger and full size spare.

Live 17 miles from a SC

Work 1 mile from a SC

No contact at all.

I dont mind the wait for a truck, still waiting on a personal matter to resolve to pay in full. So I dont mind... Thinking about changing to a R1S too.

 

[Atlrivian]

21"s aren't going to cut it when I have to drive through 1-2 feet of snow on private roads. So they aren't an option.

I did ask what was holding it up, and mentioned not seeing many 20" being delivered. His response was that he doesn't get to the factory floor much to look, he is focused on delivering trucks. Completely avoiding the question.

Apparently he's just not focused on delivering a truck to me.

The phrasing I got about when I asked if 20s and underbody were in short supply was something along the lines of "I know there are trucks being delivered with those options." 1/1000 would technically meet those criteria. If you read between the lines of Rivian's corporate-comms-speak it is clear there are significant shortages.

Then my guide reaffirmed my Oct-Dec window is still accurate, despite many trucks with 21s getting delivered to late 2021 preorders. We shall see.

 

[kurtlikevonnegut]

21"s aren't going to cut it when I have to drive through 1-2 feet of snow on private roads. So they aren't an option.

I did ask what was holding it up, and mentioned not seeing many 20" being delivered. His response was that he doesn't get to the factory floor much to look, he is focused on delivering trucks. Completely avoiding the question.

Apparently he's just not focused on delivering a truck to me.

I think a complicating factor for LE buyers who want the 20s and don't have a truck yet is the LE R1S about to ship out. I think they have earmarked most of the 20s they do have to go to 2018 and early 2019 R1S builds and not get even further behind with them. I hate it for you @Craigins but it seems like a perfect storm of bad timing with a few variables. Rooting for it to change for the better.

 

[mkg3]

21"s aren't going to cut it when I have to drive through 1-2 feet of snow on private roads. So they aren't an option.

I did ask what was holding it up, and mentioned not seeing many 20" being delivered. His response was that he doesn't get to the factory floor much to look, he is focused on delivering trucks. Completely avoiding the question.

Apparently he's just not focused on delivering a truck to me.

To clarify, I wasn't asking if 21's met your needs. Rather what if?

You know, you can always take delivery w/21s and buy 20 with AT from elsewhere dedicated for winter if the snow drivability is the issue. When I used to live in Ann Arbor years ago, my parents had winter set of wheels with winter tires (they had studs too). There are already wheels that fit Rivian out there based on the postings at this forum.

So the real question is how bad do you want your vehicle sooner than later?

I am 11/21 R1S with Ocean Coast interior. I really don't expect until about a year from now. If it comes this year great. If not, okay, wasn't expecting it. When I was the Venice R1S viewing last week, one the staff from the service center said probably sooner than that but who knows.

I haven heard a peep from Rivian other than the general email that goes out to everyone.

 

[Craigins]

I think a complicating factor for LE buyers who want the 20s and don't have a truck yet is the LE R1S about to ship out. I think they have earmarked most of the 20s they do have to go to 2018 and early 2019 R1S builds and not get even further behind with them. I hate it for you @Craigins but it seems like a perfect storm of bad timing with a few variables. Rooting for it to change for the better.

Don't forget the early Canadian pre-orders as well. I have a feeling I'm going from my guide saying "any day now" to 8-12 months.

Hope they can beat Ram in getting me a truck.

 

[the_mace]

...

1) They have basic "non-adventure" configs. No 20s. No reinforced underbody. MANY people with earlier order dates are getting skipped over due to unacknowledged product shortages (20s, Underbody, OC, etc.) With my guesstimations above, order #60k would at this point be ~60k*0.7*0.8*0.85 (and subtract 9k current trucks produced) ==> currently ~20000th in line for that config. So either there are 20k people with Adventure Large Pack is getting skipped due to supply constraints / location, or...
...

I thought they were calling early reservation holders (I'm not one of those) and offering them choices to get deliveries faster by adjusting their configs if they were open to that. Nobody has asked me that yet but I'm a late reservation holder (April 2022)

 

[Atlrivian]

I thought they were calling early reservation holders (I'm not one of those) and offering them choices to get deliveries faster by adjusting their configs if they were open to that. Nobody has asked me that yet but I'm a late reservation holder (April 2022)

When I say "skipped over", I mean they are not building a person's desired config. Instead they are building generic configs with parts on hand. Yes if I want any old Rivian I could have had one 6 weeks ago. I think many people are in the same boat as me, and really want the promised adventure vehicle to have promised adventure options.

So your ETA really depends on what you have configured. If you want stock Adventure with powered tonneau, 21s, no spare and no underbody you might get a truck before people who ordered 3-4 years ahead of you who want the 20s, Underbody, etc.

 

[Sgt Beavis]

I ordered Oct '21. I'm in the Denver area so I think my insistence on 20" ATs and underbody skidplates is probably the holdup. I went by the service center on Saturday and all but one truck was on the standard 21" wheels. I didn't check for underbody skidplates but all trucks had tow hooks.

 

[1pinhigh]

Great information, however very frustrating! I have a Sept 21 T order, quad motor, large pack, no underbody protection, black interior with 22" wheels. I'm not seeing anything on orders with 22" wheels being delivered. There is a SC in the KC area so that's a positive.

Anyone have insight into 22" wheels and is that a potential "fly in the ointment" when it comes to delivery?

 

[Atlrivian]

Great information, however very frustrating! I have a Sept 21 T order, quad motor, large pack, no underbody protection, black interior with 22" wheels. I'm not seeing anything on orders with 22" wheels being delivered. There is a SC in the KC area so that's a positive.

Anyone have insight into 22" wheels and is that a potential "fly in the ointment" when it comes to delivery?

I can tell you almost every truck in the Shop has 21s. So that's what they are building extras of. Can't speak to whether the 22s are in short supply.

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