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Funny, whether people like it or not a minivan shaped vehicle is the most practical vehicle on the road. Period. That whole soccer mom stigma you can thank chrAPysler and equally as crap ford for that.

The new Gravity will likely check way more boxes than the R1S and could end up being a far better family vehicle for most shopping in this price range.

The R1S isn't a good option for those with rear facing car seats. To be fair, it's not that type of car, or is it? If so, then that's a bigger shame on Rivian for not designing it properly. RJ even mentioned that having kids himself, that the cars were designed with that in mind to accommodate families, but you've got the R1S/T that are the absolute worst for rear facing car seats lol.

The Tesla Model X gives you better room up front with rear facing seats in the 2nd row and the KIA EV9 is the best for front passenger leg room in the same scenario. Could the new Gravity come on top for new families with rear facing car seats? We'll know soon enough.

At half the price range you've got the new KIA Carnival MPV (yea yea, minivan, but at least they're trying to kill that stigma and actually made it look like a SUV), as a great example of making a minivan look like a SUV, which is moving in the right direction.

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Only thing that sucks is that it's not an EV, yet. Instead it comes in the 3.5l V6 and in a Hybrid Trim.

This is the previous body design, but I've always thought the roof pop up was neat. You have way more vertical room in a minivan than the R1S, let alone a traditional SUV that's very skinny in comparison.

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I had a minivan for 5 years when 3 kids were young. It did its job but nobody chooses a minivan.
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I’ve been shopping the R1S, MX, and Gravity. I have a 1 year old and a 3 year old, both rear facing at the moment

The Gravity does intrigue me, but we likely need a vehicle before it’s released. From the info I could find, it looks top notch. I like the looks.

The R1S is our top option, but we are really disappointed in the lack of captain chairs as an option.

The Model X has been the clear winner for us in accommodating our girls with the captain chairs. If I could option a white on white MX with captain chairs and keep the tax credit, I’d of pulled the trigger on one already.

As it sits, we may be waiting on a new R1S.

We have a 1.5 / 3.5 year old, and found the Model X not that great storage wise. Just $0,02
 

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We have a 1.5 / 3.5 year old, and found the Model X not that great storage wise. Just $0,02
What were your biggest struggles storage wise with the Model X?

We have a Nuna Demi Grow stroller (double) that’s quite bulky because the seats don’t fold with the stroller. That said, we haven’t used it recently. We’ve been packing two Doona Liki trikes that fold into small rectangles that the girls like. We test fit those and the fit easily on the bottom of the frunk and bottom of the trunk.

I think where we might struggle is packing for vacation or Costco hauls, but we intend to keep the third row down most of the time.
 

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anyone cross shopping or thinking of getting the Lucid Gravity? seems like it'll be a compelling option if starting price is at $80k.
i know it wont have much off-road chops but its pretty clear 95% of R1S owners dont go off-road so going to be direct competitor to the R1S and Model X.

https://lucidmotors.com/gravity
Its a mini van, so no :(
 

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Maybe it is my perception, but I am not getting the minivan vibe from the gravity. It looks more like our Toyota Highlander than a minivan to me. We are hoping to go and look at both the gravity and R2 this fall sometime to think about which one we want.
 

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After having owned both R1S and model X, R1S has much higher step-in height as more geared toward off-roading. R1S Rides like a truck, a bit too harsh for its price tag. 2 nd row leg room is too tight for a rear facing car seats. Gravity looks much more functional than R1S or model X, and more kids friendly. If Gravity has better software and FSD caliber autonomy at 80k range, it will take a chunk of R1S or model X market. For 95% of buyers, Gravity will be the better choice.
 

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Key differentiator number one: The R1S is available now, it isn’t vaporware.

In theory it will start shipping later this year. I have my doubts.
 

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Key differentiator number one: The R1S is available now, it isn’t vaporware.

In theory it will start shipping later this year. I have my doubts.
They are already rolling off the assembly line, this isn't Lucid's first product, and they just received another $1.5B in funding. You will see these on the road soon.
 

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Both Rivian and Lucid will not exist in 5 yrs unless they turn around with their “ savior “ vehicles; R2 for Rivian and Gravity for lucid . If Rivian is bleeding money with R1S, what is the chance of Gravity saving Lucid?
 

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If Rivian is bleeding money with R1S...
RJ has said that the Gen 2 R1 platform is profitable on a per-unit basis. "Whole company" expenses may not be profitable yet, but their last guidance was still aiming for company net-profitability by the end of this year - well before the R2 releases.
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