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But no redundancy. The choice of two compressors is interesting. Rivian first likely designed for one. The vavles needed for one compressors may have pushed the cost up to where two systems made sense. Rivian knew they would have critical suspension failures even with the double setupBiggest take away for me is there being 2 different air compressors. I have used the rear bed one a fair amount but always worried about it also running the air suspension. Rivian continues to impress
Agreed. I was thinking the same about their idea to include the accumulator as a structural component. Great idea until it breaks and you have to replace it.The analysis and focus on cost-cutting makes me hope Rivian doesn’t blindly do everything Munroe & Associates advises.
Regarding the two compressors, I think separate is the way to go. We’ve seen people on here trying to run air tools (!) from the rear compressor which is designed for convenience use: tires, toys, air mattresses, etc. If someone kills their rear convenience compressor then that’s, well, an inconvenience. If Rivian moves to one compressor for suspension AND convenience you introduce more points of failure to the suspension compressor and system with valving for the convenience outlet. Worse, if someone overheats or kills their theoretical suspension+convenience compressor they may render the truck undrivable. No thank you.
Double agree.Agreed. I was thinking the same about their idea to include the accumulator as a structural component. Great idea until it breaks and you have to replace it.
Simplifying and reducing component count can certainly reduce production costs and probably lead to a more precise build.Agreed. I was thinking the same about their idea to include the accumulator as a structural component. Great idea until it breaks and you have to replace it.
Wasn’t the bed mounted compressor originally an option included in the off-road package only?The analysis and focus on cost-cutting makes me hope Rivian doesn’t blindly do everything Munroe & Associates advises.
Regarding the two compressors, I think separate is the way to go. We’ve seen people on here trying to run air tools (!) from the rear compressor which is designed for convenience use: tires, toys, air mattresses, etc. If someone kills their rear convenience compressor then that’s, well, an inconvenience. If Rivian moves to one compressor for suspension AND convenience you introduce more points of failure to the suspension compressor and system with valving for the convenience outlet. Worse, if someone overheats or kills their theoretical suspension+convenience compressor they may render the truck undrivable. No thank you.
The accessory compressor was originally supposed to be an option. That's most likely why they have separate compressors. They'd do better to upsize a single compressor instead of having two.The analysis and focus on cost-cutting makes me hope Rivian doesn’t blindly do everything Munroe & Associates advises.
Regarding the two compressors, I think separate is the way to go. We’ve seen people on here trying to run air tools (!) from the rear compressor which is designed for convenience use: tires, toys, air mattresses, etc. If someone kills their rear convenience compressor then that’s, well, an inconvenience. If Rivian moves to one compressor for suspension AND convenience you introduce more points of failure to the suspension compressor and system with valving for the convenience outlet. Worse, if someone overheats or kills their theoretical suspension+convenience compressor they may render the truck undrivable. No thank you.
Give me a beefy single compressor that I can run air tools on, and I'd be quite happy.The accessory compressor was originally supposed to be an option. That's most likely why they have separate compressors. They'd do better to upsize a single compressor instead of having two.
Yes, that’s what I recall.Wasn’t the bed mounted compressor originally an option included in the off-road package only?
I still like having a separate convenience compressor that can be used and abused as people see fit but breaking it doesn’t affect drivability.The accessory compressor was originally supposed to be an option. That's most likely why they have separate compressors. They'd do better to upsize a single compressor instead of having two.
I can’t speak for others but my Jeep GC has the quad-r-trac air suspension, it is 8 years old and has never had an issue. It has 75k miles, auto lowers at speed and for different ride heights and drive modes.For those who have had air suspension on other vehicles, how reliable are these systems long term? Is the compressor a high wear part that needs to get replaced relatively often compared to other components?
That little compressor for such a huge and heavy vehicle doesnt instill the most confidence in it, but I know nothing about these systems, maybe that goes a long way.
We bought our Land Rover LR3 for off-road adventures in 2014 with 109,000 miles on it. I don’t know if the compressor is original or not, but the same one has been chugging along for another 8 years and 132,000 more miles with some heavy-duty off-road use on a nearly 6,000 lb. vehicle.For those who have had air suspension on other vehicles, how reliable are these systems long term? Is the compressor a high wear part that needs to get replaced relatively often compared to other components?
That little compressor for such a huge and heavy vehicle doesnt instill the most confidence in it, but I know nothing about these systems, maybe that goes a long way.