navigation system the worst there is.

[Gary]

I tried to use the navigations system when I returned from San Fran airport and it told me to charge up at an EVGO stop in SAn Jose. The navigation system first of all does not show options on the map like the TEsla does. It doesn't give any specific info. about the chargers, it just says if you want fast chargers or available chargers but you are blind as to what you will be getting until you get there.

Then it directed me into a residential neighborhood and a dead end on a cul de sac in a residential neighborhood. GREAT. I looked through the trees there and saw a charging station so rerouted around to a shopping mall that holds the chargers.

I was on a time constraint so I only charged what I needed and saw that the map calculated that I had 50 miles over what I needed. I continued on my trip and then while I was driving it wanted me to go to some random street which clearly was not on the route as I was near the direct highway access to 85 S and eventually highway 101 the quickest way. it was stuck on this one road it wanted me to go on. Then it recalculated and I was basically now only 20 miles over what I needed and I had only gone about a mile since charging. it recommened me now to do another stop en route to my house in 150 miles or so. So now this was going to be a challenge whether the Rivian would arrive wiht the 20 miles it said i had extra.

I arrived at my house with the vehicle saying it was shutting down at 1% charge available and 2 miles remaining on the computer.

I really don't see the value of this software, we could use the google platform for a much higher success and Rivian could have save a few hundred million dollars instead of buying this POS platform which really isn't helpful.

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[elfordon]

We are on our first trip with Large Charge Marge, an R1T Max Pack, which we got a few weeks ago. Marge took 3 years, 3 months, and 15 days to arrive, so I’ve spent a little time on these forums with serious truck envy. Our plan of attack has been:

Map the trip for the day using ABRP Premium version, and then use the Rivian map display to select the charger ABRP suggests as the Rivian’s only destination. Rinse and repeat for each stop ABRP suggests.

 

[ATL_R1S]

Our plan of attack has been:

Map the trip for the day using ABRP Premium version, and then use the Rivian map display to select the charger ABRP suggests as the Rivian’s only destination. Rinse and repeat for each stop ABRP suggests.

This is the way. Except I use Waze as my HUD when actively driving, with phone mounted on the dash between the driver's screen and center display. I like having the on-road alerts for police, wrecks, potholes etc.

 

[Hankenstein]

The problem I have with setting a charger destination in the Rivian nav screen is that it automatically does battery preconditioning which reduces range (probably not by much).

The navigation still needs some major upgrades before I will use it over google maps+ABRP

 

[Dark-Fx]

"Worst there is" and compares it to one other system, that a lot of people say is the best in the business.

Having used Google maps in our Polestar 2 and Hummer EV, it's not really better than the Rivian system. Tesla's major advantage is being able to use their own chargers and they know everything about them.

 

[Cycliste]

Road trip navigation process at this time
1. RAN, additional favorite chargers list, ABRP Premium, PlugShare ratings to generate a manual route plan and charging stops
2. Manual 2023.46 multi-stop trip with each preselected charging point
3. During the trip, I would also run Apple Maps (EVSportline CarPlay accessory on order)

Off road trip process still in development
I would probably use Gaia GPS, maybe OnXOffroad on an iPhone
Manually generated waypoints and compass bearings/as the crow flies distances
Basically what I do when backpacking, except I would add an iPad and a StarLink (for use when stopped for the day)

 

[Marchin_MTB]

I agree that it’s not the best system but no way is it the worst. I have had several in car nav’s that were significantly less useful. Yes, it’s picked some goofy routes but that happens maybe 20% of the time. I’ve also had ABRP pick some nonsensical routing as well. The solution is to nudge the system back towards what you feel is right. We sometimes forget that WE are the navigators, the mapping is only a tool.

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Then it directed me into a residential neighborhood and a dead end on a cul de sac in a residential neighborhood. GREAT. I looked through the trees there and saw a charging station so rerouted around to a shopping mall that holds the chargers.

Mine once told me to get on an interstate highway on-ramp instead of navigating into the nearby shopping center parking lot where the chargers were. To be fair, you could *see* the chargers from the ramp... LOL. ?

Edit: for all the good it does, whenever it pulls some shenanigans like that I say "Alexa, submit feedback" and proceed to curse it out. Wonder if that "feedback" goes to anyone? ?

 

[R.I.P.]

Yep. It is bad. Really bad. Probably the worst I have had, but I never trusted in-dash nav systems until I started driving Teslas anyway. So I admit, Tesla has really spoiled me, and got me away from the self-dependance I relied on prior.

On a positive note, as updates come in, the Riv Nav is looking incrementally closer to my Tesla... so we are at least moving in the right direction. Until we get there, I am just back to depending on my own nav work, as the R1 has become my favorite vehicle to travel in.

 

[HAL9000]

Complaining that it's "the worst" is kind of a stretch here. Does it need improvements? Sure...

We have two Range Rover's and let me tell ya I'd pick the Rivian nav over them any day of the week twice on Sundays.

Whenever I need a map update or some kind of an update I have to take the RR into service and beg them to update it (then they tell me to buy a map Disc).

 

[COdogman]

Nav systems have been screwing up since the first one was created. I have never had one that I have actually trusted without checking a second source before driving off.

It's still better than what I used before that which was a stack of printed out MapQuest maps for all my accounts that day and how to get from home to stop 1, then stop 1 to stop 2, etc... They were pretty much ALWAYS wrong and the inside of my Subaru looked like the house of an old paperwork hoarder.

First world problems.

 

[DTown3011]

We are on our first trip with Large Charge Marge, an R1T Max Pack, which we got a few weeks ago. Marge took 3 years, 3 months, and 15 days to arrive, so I’ve spent a little time on these forums with serious truck envy. Our plan of attack has been:

Map the trip for the day using ABRP Premium version, and then use the Rivian map display to select the charger ABRP suggests as the Rivian’s only destination. Rinse and repeat for each stop ABRP suggests.

I agree with this - what I don't understand is with Rivian purchasing ABRP why they have not fully integrated this into the nav. I still get different results when I use the Rivian nav vs. ABRP and ABRP is almost always the better route. Doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[R.I.P.]

I agree with this - what I don't understand is with Rivian purchasing ABRP why they have not fully integrated this into the nav. I still get different results when I use the Rivian nav vs. ABRP and ABRP is almost always the better route. Doesn't make any sense to me.

 

[NineElectrics]

I concur. It is the worst of all the “modern” nav. systems I have used. By a lot. Mapbox is working the long con with Rivian.

Even the far clunker system in my Audi at least delivered accurate turn by turn directions.

 

[Batman]

So my approach for upcoming 1st EV trip.

1. I did the trip planner on Plugshare for my upcoming 640mile trip, Dallas to STL(I plan to drive in conserve mode which I nvr really do)
2. I mapped out 9 charging location even though i'll really just need 4
3. Validated each location on their apps (Francis, Electric America, EvGO) and google map to see the area
4. Plugshare lets you export this to google map. So now I have this map saved in google, which i can share with my R1S via share option in google maps. This will display route on R1S nav
5. Took my google map with 9 charging locations and trimmed it down to 4 charging locations. Averaging around 160 miles between each charging spot. Exported this map and saved it
6. Now I have 2 google maps, one with 9 charging stations and one with 4 that I plan on stopping at. (one with 9 gives me back up if something at a location is down)

So I'm trusting Plugshare to map it, individual charging apps for exact address and status, and google maps to actually transfer the map from plugshare to my R1S navigation

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