No OTA for tire size changes

[RedDragon]

yeah at this point I'm just going to leave my truck with the software thinking I have 21s and I'll swap between my 20s and 21s as I need to. Once I can adjust this in the UI, then I will, but it's certainly not worth paying them (and wasting their time) to do this update at a service center. Never mind the two month lead time for most SC appointments.

Has the consensus been that doing so only slightly impacts odometer/range accuracy? Driving performance is unaffected?

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[JGard18]

Honestly don’t even know. The speedo is more accurate on 20s with 21 software though. On the other hand, I HATED the suspension update, swapped to 21s last week, and now it’s more tolerable (less floaty feeling). Maybe I’m just used to it though, who knows

 

[NY_Rob]

The whole Rivian excuse of "the cameras need to be recalibrated" is nonsense... it's a vehicle with a 6" variable ride height! You don't need to re-calibrate the cameras every time you change the ride height do you? So how is moving to a slightly larger or smaller diameter tire on a adjustable ride height vehicle any different than changing your default ride height in the GUI?

 

[Riviot]

Has the consensus been that doing so only slightly impacts odometer/range accuracy? Driving performance is unaffected?

If you have 21 or 22 inch tires calibrated, keep them, don't calibrate to 20 inch. You'll get more accurate speedometer readings and if you do 20" AS, better guessometer.

Us 20ers swapping to smaller diameter are having trouble bumping up to either 21 or 22, so keep what you got. I think I got lucky in my calibration, that or they're finally starting to give in.

 

[goldburger]

I also would like to change down to my 20in wheels for the Chicago winter (from 22). The CS rep said no mobile service appointments in Chicago any time soon and that he would look into allowing an OTA update after i did the swap myself.

As already reported here he came back said no-go - that's for "internal" use only. Sure sounds like no special equipment is needed tho...

Quoted $180 for me to drive to the city so they can do it for me. Ugh.

just get 33" tires for your 20's....

 

[hansgieskes]

I was told something similar months ago. I was switching to 21's from 20's and the SC did not make the change when it was in (for a different issue that also was not resolved). They said they had to contact the mother ship and that it would come OTA. And that someone would call me to follow up. None of that happened.

I've since got about 8000 miles on 21's and 4000 on 20's and interchange them regularly. The truck doesn't care or behave any differently with either set on.

How long can they go on with this BS and shooting / burying employees? They're on a path to sell 50k+ cars per year, and the idea that anybody wanting to swap 21" summer tires for 20" winter tires would need to spend a whole day to visit a service center is not very smart nor practical?

 

[Adventusaurus]

How long can they go on with this BS and shooting / burying employees? They're on a path to sell 50k+ cars per year, and the idea that anybody wanting to swap 21" summer tires for 20" winter tires would need to spend a whole day to visit a service center is not very smart nor practical?

And by the time you got an appointment it would be time to switch back anyway…

 

[JGard18]

And by the time you got an appointment it would be time to switch back anyway…

I just booked a SC appt for the whole driveshaft clicking thing last night, first available appt is Dec 22. Awesome. So yeah, if I wanted to have them swap my software, I'll have been on the 20s for over a month by then, as I tend to change over in early November.

 

[moosetags]

How long can they go on with this BS and shooting / burying employees? They're on a path to sell 50k+ cars per year, and the idea that anybody wanting to swap 21" summer tires for 20" winter tires would need to spend a whole day to visit a service center is not very smart nor practical?

You are pointing out the obvious, but Rivian can not seem to grasp the situation or how to correct it. Rivian has not added any service centers recently, but they seem to be more than willing and able to open new sales centers. That's all they need is to sell a lot more trucks that they can't service. Before you know it, there will be a one year wait to get a spare tire installed. Who is driving the bus????

Brian

 

[R1Thor]

Yeesh.
I just ordered some 275/60R20s so I can swap back and forth between my 21" and 20s without taking it anywhere besides my own personal garage at home. That's just bananas otherwise.

I plan to use 20" wheels with 3Peak AT tires for winter, but then also want to be able to swap for some off-roading weekend fun during the summer. I have zero interest in being 'required' to take my vehicle into service EVERY TIME I swap my wheels. That's bonkers.

 

[hansgieskes]

Yeesh.
I just ordered some 275/60R20s so I can swap back and forth between my 21" and 20s without taking it anywhere besides my own personal garage at home. That's just bananas otherwise.

I plan to use 20" wheels with 3Peak AT tires for winter, but then also want to be able to swap for some off-roading weekend fun during the summer. I have zero interest in being 'required' to take my vehicle into service EVERY TIME I swap my wheels. That's bonkers.

You gotta love Rivian's startup culture which basically includes telling their customers what's best for them, regardless if that customer has a different opinion or if Rivian policy is evidently not feasible. At least they don't do it out of profit motive. I do believe they mean well - bless their hearts...

 

[FrankieJ]

My guess is that your vehicle will need to go into a "service mode" or something as such to change the tire diameter. Rivian would rather not let you go into a service mode on your own. If we were to be able to change tire diameters ourselves they would need to create a consumer level service mode that doesn't give the random dude enough control to ever break something on their own.

When I have to change out my 20” Pirellis and purchase a tire set with the same diameter will I still need to take my R1T to the service center for a recalibration?

 

[R1Thor]

When I have to change out my 20” Pirellis and purchase a tire set with the same diameter will I still need to take my R1T to the service center for a recalibration?

Not if it's the same diameter, no.

 

[jjswan33]

Yeesh.
I just ordered some 275/60R20s so I can swap back and forth between my 21" and 20s without taking it anywhere besides my own personal garage at home. That's just bananas otherwise.

I plan to use 20" wheels with 3Peak AT tires for winter, but then also want to be able to swap for some off-roading weekend fun during the summer. I have zero interest in being 'required' to take my vehicle into service EVERY TIME I swap my wheels. That's bonkers.

Maybe you missed it but 275/60r20 have nearly the same diameter to 275/55r21.

In this case I am not sure what you want from Rivian, they obviously wouldn't be able to calibrate your range based on any random non-OEM tire that someone decides to use. Speedometer accuracy won't change.

People here that are asking for changes have went from 275/65r20 to the smaller diameter and are worried about speedo error I think. Personally having temporarily gone to the 21s and then came back to the OEM 20" size I'd love to have my range estimates put back to the lower number, I have no concerns about my speedo.

 

[R1Thor]

Maybe you missed it but 275/60r20 have nearly the same diameter to 275/55r21.

In this case I am not sure what you want from Rivian, they obviously wouldn't be able to calibrate your range based on any random non-OEM tire that someone decides to use. Speedometer accuracy won't change.

People here that are asking for changes have went from 275/65r20 to the smaller diameter and are worried about speedo error I think. Personally having temporarily gone to the 21s and then came back to the OEM 20" size I'd love to have my range estimates put back to the lower number, I have no concerns about my speedo.

I'm confused--what'd I miss?

I went with the 275/60R20 BECAUSE they have the same diameter as the 275/55R21.

The (currently) Rivian configuration size for 20s is 275/65R21, which is different enough to cause significance with speedometer (and odometer) calibration needed..

So, 275/60R20 should NOT need service, or calibration, or anything unnecessary, ergo allowing me to swap freely between the two sets of tires at my own discretion.

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