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That is correct.

If yours doesn't do it. Then get this one. There is constant on mode and off after 20 minutes

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Thanks. The one EVsportline sent looks exactly like that. I'm going to try the - position to see if the instructions are incorrect. They say it should turn off after 20 minutes in the 0 mode and on low voltage in the - mode.
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Thanks. The one EVsportline sent looks exactly like that. I'm going to try the - position to see if the instructions are incorrect. They say it should turn off after 20 minutes in the 0 mode and on low voltage in the - mode.
I would check on the app to see if your car is sleeping and go out to the car to take a peak without your phone. That is how I know my radar is off.
 

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I would check on the app to see if your car is sleeping and go out to the car to take a peak without your phone. That is how I know my radar is off.
Good advice. I just did the hazard vehicle reset procedure and will check it 30 minutes after it sleeps with no phone and no watch.

If I can't get it to turn off I guess it's not a big deal. How much power can a MagSafe charger draw anyway. If truck is going to sit idle for a while I can just unplug it. But my OCD wants it working properly.
 

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Good advice. I just did the hazard vehicle reset procedure and will check it 30 minutes after it sleeps with no phone and no watch.

If I can't get it to turn off I guess it's not a big deal. How much power can a MagSafe charger draw anyway. If truck is going to sit idle for a while I can just unplug it. But my OCD wants it working properly.
I don't think so either, unless you leave car idle and unplug for an extended period of time. If you have your car plugged in and idle, then it should not matters at all.
 

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So I let our G2 sleep overnight and checked it this morning without my phone or watch. MagSafe charger didn't turn off. So it's either the adapter isn't working properly or the truck's OBD2 port isn't sending the sleep signal.
 

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Standard obd2 connector but only supplies power and data connection for pc to run Rivian specific diagnostic software.
 

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So I let our G2 sleep overnight and checked it this morning without my phone or watch. MagSafe charger didn't turn off. So it's either the adapter isn't working properly or the truck's OBD2 port isn't sending the sleep signal.
Man, that sucks. That would annoyed my OCD too even though I know it would not doing much to the 12V. Did the EVsportsline magsafe charger changed its design? I have one in my gen1 quad R1s and it is powered by tapped fuse box underneath.
 

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Mine is the same. Charger never turns off. Doesn't seem to phase the 12v. But it does stay on always
 

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Man, that sucks. That would annoyed my OCD too even though I know it would not doing much to the 12V. Did the EVsportsline magsafe charger changed its design? I have one in my gen1 quad R1s and it is powered by tapped fuse box underneath.
For the Gen2 the EVsporline MagSafe charger comes with an OBD2 adapter. My understanding is the fuse box is not there on the G2. The OBD2 adapter is supposed to shut off after 20 minutes with the switch in the O position (ACC mode) and at 11.6 volts with the switch in the - position (surveillance mode).
 

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Mine is the same. Charger never turns off. Doesn't seem to phase the 12v. But it does stay on always
I checked my OBD2 port with a test light and only pin 16 has 12v power. Pin 5 is "signal ground" on an ICE OBD2 port and that pin is not populated on the Rivian.

So my best guess is that there is no way to shutoff the phone charger without an OBD2 adapter specific for the Rivian. I have no idea if any of the other PINs on the Rivian have the signal that a dash cam OBD2 adapter is looking for.

I'm guessing the Schosche adapter would shutoff the charger when the Rivian sleeps as it's looking for just a dip in voltage (12.6v) but that the charger would come on every time the truck wakes to charge the 12v up. Seems like the perfect radar detector power source for an ICE vehicle.

Here are some photos in case anyone has any ideas.

EVsportline adapter:

Rivian R1T R1S OBD2 on Gen2 R1T IMG_0390


G2 OBD2 port:

Rivian R1T R1S OBD2 on Gen2 R1T IMG_0391


OBD2 pinout diagram (ICE vehicle)

Rivian R1T R1S OBD2 on Gen2 R1T OBD2 ICE pin diagram
 
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Did some further testing. None of other PINs go to ground when the truck sleeps. All I have is constant 12v on PIN 16 and constant ground on PIN 4. So unless Rivian changes something with a software update I don't see any cheap OBD2 adapter ever shutting off when the truck sleeps.

Oh well I can live with it.
 

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Did some further testing. None of other PINs go to ground when the truck sleeps. All I have is constant 12v on PIN 16 and constant ground on PIN 4. So unless Rivian changes something with a software update I don't see any cheap OBD2 adapter ever shutting off when the truck sleeps.

Oh well I can live with it.
I think it is the best to just ignore it like how the Vampire drain is and enjoy the vehicle. :)
 

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Did some further testing. None of other PINs go to ground when the truck sleeps. All I have is constant 12v on PIN 16 and constant ground on PIN 4. So unless Rivian changes something with a software update I don't see any cheap OBD2 adapter ever shutting off when the truck sleeps.

Oh well I can live with it.
From various reading I have done over the years, I'm pretty sure that the pin 16 constant (never switched) 12 VDC is required by OBDII spec. The other protocol lines, if implemented, must follow that protocol spec as well and it would be unusual for a protocol to sink to full ground. The one possibility is that pin 1 is used by some manufacturers to indicate if the ignition is on or off, but it is "at descretion" of the manufacturer. You may have already seen it, wikipedia has a detailed description of the pinout functions.
 

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From various reading I have done over the years, I'm pretty sure that the pin 16 constant (never switched) 12 VDC is required by OBDII spec. The other protocol lines, if implemented, must follow that protocol spec as well and it would be unusual for a protocol to sink to full ground. The one possibility is that pin 1 is used by some manufacturers to indicate if the ignition is on or off, but it is "at descretion" of the manufacturer. You may have already seen it, wikipedia has a detailed description of the pinout functions.
I don't know details, so don't ask me, but from what I've heard EVs aren't required to adhere to the full OBD II spec because a lot of it doesn't apply to EVs and they have other diagnostic tools. Tesla doesn't even have a user accessible port at all. You have to plug in to a harness behind a panel.
 

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I don't know details, so don't ask me, but from what I've heard EVs aren't required to adhere to the full OBD II spec because a lot of it doesn't apply to EVs and they have other diagnostic tools. Tesla doesn't even have a user accessible port at all. You have to plug in to a harness behind a panel.
Yeah, OBD is really two standards - hardware/protocol and diagnostics codes. The same code for an ICE cat converter sensor failure will be returned regardless of manufacturer. I have read that EVs are not required to support the full OBD. Makes sense because 95% of the OBD Standard codes are irrelevant since they are ICE troubleshooting information.

But it seems most/all EV manufacturers have wisely chosen to not completely re-invent everything, and just use the existing OBD hardware standards. That's wise also because existing OBD tools could implement the EV codes just with a software update, if the manufacturer provides the details.
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