Has Driver Plus improved a lot since the first vehicles?

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[kizamybute']

If it is, I can't tell personally. For me, it's almost unusable. Rarely seems to be in a place where it works. When it does, it's limited. Any big bridge, it says a tunnel is coming up and you have to manually disengage, otherwise it will put you in Driver+ jail. To change lanes, have to reset it every time. It does fairly well at keeping its lane, when it's available. But beyond that, still has a very long, long, long way to go before being a system that will be considered as a beneficial feature. It's slightly superior to basic ICE cars that have lane keep assist. Inferior to Ford's Blue Cruise, far inferior to GM's Supercruise and doesn't compare to Tesla's AP. It will improve over time, but it's going to take a while. Rivian has bigger fish to fry right now.

 

[SeaGeo]

I agree eith the first couple of responses, the late updare has made it a bit worse for me. I suspect they're trying to rely less on premapping based on what jts doing, but that's literally just a hunch.

Other than that, this may be the most overly dramatic thread in a long time. At least where I live, with my truck it works quite well and I use it on about 80% of my commute miles and phave used it for probably 90%+ of my road trip miles. It handles curves better than the other ADAS systems I've had, and I personally really appreciate how it does try to play chicken with you as you approach stopped cars or slow traffic like my Volvo does. Is it perfect? No. Is it hot garbage? No.

 

[cleex024]

I agree eith the first couple of responses, the late updare has made it a bit worse for me. I suspect they're trying to rely less on premapping based on what jts doing, but that's literally just a hunch.

Other than that, this may be the most overly dramatic thread in a long time. At least where I live, with my truck it works quite well and I use it on about 80% of my commute miles and phave used it for probably 90%+ of my road trip miles. It handles curves better than the other ADAS systems I've had, and I personally really appreciate how it does try to play chicken with you as you approach stopped cars or slow traffic like my Volvo does. Is it perfect? No. Is it hot garbage? No.

That's funny... tesla plays chicken sometimes too which by now you would think they would have it figured out... the lightning was actuality really good as far as adas was concerned... maybe I should have bought that ?

 

[AaronTV]

In general, it has worked well for me but definitely not perfect.

In fact, it actively tried to cause an accident on the highway last week. It mistakenly seemed to think it needed to avoid a collision (red light flashed in driver display) and tried to rapidly swerve into the adjacent lane... Which was occupied by another vehicle. If I hadn't been ready to immediately correct this, all signs indicated a collision would have ensued.

I've definitely lost some faith in it as a result.

 

[BCan]

If I’m on a road trip and the interstate is relatively straight, it does fine and makes the drive less fatiguing. In the mountains, on curvy interstate roads - it’s unusable. Additionally, i’ve had it go bonkers in the right lane if the paint veers off onto an off ramp. Lastly, for some reason, it hates bridges.

it needs work.

 

[shrink]

I’ve only owned my R1T for 6 days. I used it for the first time yesterday on a highway here in Phoenix for about a 7-mile stretch.

I was pleasantly surprised. Worked well for me actually. I really liked the blue line indicating following distance and I liked that it showed how the line would change based on different settings. By contrast, in our Model 3 with FSD, following distance is an ill defined number from 1 to 5, I think? Maybe it’s 4. Haven’t changed the setting in a while.

That said, I have also noticed the computer thinks I’m hugging the right lane on city streets, then the trucks’s location starts bouncing around the lane.

Maybe they have good mapping on the Phoenix highways? Who knows. My brief use was pleasantly much better than I expected, but I’m sure there will be headaches and WTF moments in my future.

 

[Marchin_MTB]

i don’t know about overly dramatic… I can’t get ACC to work without severe phantom braking and therefore opted not to gamble with Driver +.

I might try it one day if I’m being adventurous and if no one else is in the car with me.

 

[RWerksman]

I agree eith the first couple of responses, the late updare has made it a bit worse for me. I suspect they're trying to rely less on premapping based on what jts doing, but that's literally just a hunch.

Other than that, this may be the most overly dramatic thread in a long time. ... Is it perfect? No. Is it hot garbage? No.

Concur. It hasn't improved and it isn't great, but it's not terrible either. I'd say it's mediocre overall, trending just a bit slightly worse.

It's not as good as my AP 1 Model S, but worlds better than my wife's Honda Pilot which consistently bounces off the right line and is so torque limited that it can't make it around any but the most gentle curves.

 

[Atlrivian]

How dependent is the driver+ is on road quality / premapping? Could some roads that are mapped lead to much better driving experiences than others that are also mapped?

I have yet to go on a long road trip, but I fairly regularly drive Atlanta to Savannah. 160 miles of this is dead straight on I16 with generally low traffic levels. It would be really great to have a well functioning Driver+ on these super boring drives. As I'm typing this I now wonder if highway I16 has made the Driver+ cut ?

 

[elektrode]

Software 31.06 fixed my one of my Driver+ issues where previously it would not engage.

Yesterday, on literally the first time I demoed Driver+ to my wife, the truck followed a tarred over seem and tried to dump us onto the shoulder. Literally 30 sec into showing my wife I had to intervene.

I did notice it bouncing between lines in this update. I didn’t know if that was due to it correcting for alignment or not. Still not 100% sure my alignment is perfect.

Overall I’m a bad person to ask because it took 1.5 months for Rivian to get my Driver+ even working. In my case I had a failed XMM computer that had to be replaced.

 

[miasm]

It works ok-ish. I keep trying it here and there (I don't really care if it works or not; not a feature I really feel the need for. I'll keep doing most of the driving for now). It definitely ping-pongs in the road much more than it used to.

It's also not really better than when first delivered and a fairly basic implementation. Like on a two lane road, whichever lane you're in it should stay centered, or slightly to the shoulder-side if there's something near you in the other lane. It also doesn't take the car next to you into account. If Driver+ starts hugging the center in a turn (as it tends to do), and the car next to you does also, you get uncomfortably close! It doesn't seem to really take the vehicle next to you into account at all.

 

[BCan]

How dependent is the driver+ is on road quality / premapping? Could some roads that are mapped lead to much better driving experiences than others that are also mapped?

I have yet to go on a long road trip, but I fairly regularly drive Atlanta to Savannah. 160 miles of this is dead straight on I16 with generally low traffic levels. It would be really great to have a well functioning Driver+ on these super boring drives. As I'm typing this I now wonder if highway I16 has made the Driver+ cut ?

From my road trip(s) experience - almost all interstates are mapped and available. I’ve had a few miles in the NW remote interstates that were not. Some double lane non-interstate roads are mapped as well. Highways…haven’t seen one mapped…it’s only double lane interstate type roads. The truck presents an icon when the Driver + is avail. Outside of that…it’s just adaptive cruise…which can slam the brakes on if cars are parked on the side of the road, etc.

To your question - i’d bet I16 is mapped…and it would work nicely.

 

[kylealden]

Mileage clearly varies. I've been pleasantly surprised by Driver+ -

Rivian's TACC is unambiguously better than Tesla's in my experience. Less phantom breaking, better smoothing during speed changes, less sloppy rubber-banding. Just a more pleasant experience all around.

Driver+ is not as good as autopilot, but mostly just because it doesn't work in as many places. I've only had a scant few lane keeping problems like others are describing - not materially more often than in my Tesla. And it definitely does better with not being distracted by on/off-ramps in my experience. It does struggle with centering through sharp curves - it seems to manage its speed better than Tesla, but often turns too sharply and unncessarily cuts the inside of the corner, freaking out neighboring drivers.

There's plenty of room to grow, but I think they're clearly invested in it and I certainly don't think it's a reason not to buy a Rivian vs. a Tesla. I very occasionally miss the ability to turn on Autopilot on arbitrary roads (usually small country highways, city roads are a nightmare), but if I'm being honest I hope Rivian is spending their talent on more important problems than that for now.

 

[Blueassassin]

Got to use mine for the first time this weekend it did ok. Here in Chicago the road lines are non existent some places it did better than expected with that. It did make me take over for a tunnel I wasn't expecting to have to then I got put in Rivian jail. Also I hold the wheel with three fingers on the side and kept getting the please hold wheel light even though I was that got pretty annoying.

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