R1S in the Wild

[the long way downunder]

That rear wiper is tiny...

and in the wrong spot

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[crashmtb]

thats still a rumor at this point and hasn't been confirmed other than by CS, who often are misinformed.

Have you not seen a picture of the back of an R1S? ?

 

[electruck]

Have you not seen a picture of the back of an R1S? ?

I think there is some confusion over terminology here. Absolutely known that there are both a power liftgate and manual tailgate. But some have also questioned whether the glass opens independent of the liftgate which is what I think dleewla thought you were suggesting regarding the wiper.

I have no proof but I would be positively shocked if the glass opened separate from the liftgate. I don't think Rivian could meet their NVH goals if it did. Also don't see much benefit given the size of the liftgate is already reduced as a result of having a tailgate.

 

[DuckTruck]

This was my very first vehicle! Man, you just took me back I had so much fun with this car till it got broken into and taken for a joy-ride before it got stripped for parts ?

My first auto purchase was the 1980 "S" model. Best $9,988 I ever spent. Got it Sunday morning, 9/28/1980. Donated it Tuesday evening, 12/31/1991. Eleven years and over 180,000 miles (actually 4,111 days and 181,123 miles*) with zip needed for major repairs. Tune-ups and tires, sure, but never even had to replace the clutch and only remember doing the brakes pads twice and rotors once. Even with two left hands, oil and air filter changes took no time. Some electrical gremlins, but always fixed with a quick trip to Pep Boys.

When I dream about road-trips, it almost always has me flying around the Western U.S. and Canada in my Scirocco. Thanks for the memories!



(*Oddly enough, I can't remember the date I self-diagnosed with OCD/CDO.)

 

[opnwide]

and in the wrong spot

But it broke 5 times before you sold it.

 

[DuckTruck]

It’s mounted to the glass because that portion opens separately from the lower part.

Crash,

I'm writing only because I'm confused as to what you mean above. I'm not certain, but I think @LeoH is saying is that with the window imbedded in the upper rear hatch, wouldn't a door-mounted wiper allow a longer blade, which would cover more of the glass? Please correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty certain that the back glass on the R1S doesn't open separately from the upper rear hatch, correct? I can see pluses and minuses for glass or door mounting, but I'm asking only because I wasn't sure I understood the point you were making.

Regarding the Rain-X discussion later, I found their stuff worked well in the Summer and Fall around Portland, but like you, it didn't do the trick when the really crappy weather set in. This was especially true with the snow and ice I had for months on end when living in Eastern Idaho. If I did have an application of Rain-X on the glass and hit the washers, it ended up streaking and needed to be removed or reapplied.

Thanks!

 

[the long way downunder]

But it broke 5 times before you sold it.

Well, I ordered a while ago and it's not arriving till year after next … I could be talking about any EV … but I mean the Range Rover. : )

As for my current Rangie, it's been reliable, if expensive to keep that way … the cabin of the Rivian gives me the impression Rivian designers took a Range Rover and copied it stroke for stroke then make a few quick brushes over to disguise its origin … add back a few of the signature cabin trim features (screw adjusters on armrests) and add in some annoyingly squeaky plastic, a few metal-painted plastic bits and the R1 would be indistinguishable from a Land Rover. : )
But I wish Rivian had continued to copy features of Range Rover that have come for its decades of combining tough off-road capabilities with iterative design improvements (like protective seals around the doors, a wiper that disappears into the wind deflector, a "commanding" driving position and low bonnet) while not attempting the peculiar "stadium" headlights (which I hope can be easily turned off … at least I can't see them from the driver's seat. : )
I think Land Rover went too far with this new (for 2022) Range Rover, but they have certainly invented a generation of the Range Rover that will maintain its grace into the future. I think the 2018 styling cues of the R1 date back to Porsche in the 90s but laid on too thick, too overtly distinctive, exclaiming "this is an electric vehicle!" when that is already an unremarkable thing, which competitors like GM and Ford have understated … the Lightning looks like its contemporary F-150, the Silverado, absent a tailpipe, has nothing more than a discolored "e" to distinguish it from its "burn stuff" siblings. Rivian is missing the target of utility in one or two form-over-function faux pas, for example the high lift-over of the nose to reach into the frunk instead of a flat, low load height which even GM and Ford managed, and the spare tire trapped under the cargo bed instead of being accessible from the rear bumper – I imagine it was a tricky decision and fair enough, there's the upside that the tire well is a sort of "smugglers locker" for more storage. I hope Range Rover manages to do as well as Rivian while picking up some of the utility features from GM and Ford. Hopefully Rivian, for the R2 or the R1 version 2 sticks the not-a-grill on the hood, though I'm afraid we're stuck with the oddball headlights forever. Maybe the R2 will be distinctive and no burdened with the family genes.

 

[iansriv]

Well, I ordered a while ago and it's not arriving till year after next … I could be talking about any EV … but I mean the Range Rover. : )

As for my current Rangie, it's been reliable, if expensive to keep that way … the cabin of the Rivian gives me the impression Rivian designers took a Range Rover and copied it stroke for stroke then make a few quick brushes over to disguise its origin … add back a few of the signature cabin trim features (screw adjusters on armrests) and add in some annoyingly squeaky plastic, a few metal-painted plastic bits and the R1 would be indistinguishable from a Land Rover. : )
But I wish Rivian had continued to copy features of Range Rover that have come for its decades of combining tough off-road capabilities with iterative design improvements (like protective seals around the doors, a wiper that disappears into the wind deflector, a "commanding" driving position and low bonnet) while not attempting the peculiar "stadium" headlights (which I hope can be easily turned off … at least I can't see them from the driver's seat. : )
I think Land Rover went too far with this new (for 2022) Range Rover, but they have certainly invented a generation of the Range Rover that will maintain its grace into the future. I think the 2018 styling cues of the R1 date back to Porsche in the 90s but laid on too thick, too overtly distinctive, exclaiming "this is an electric vehicle!" when that is already an unremarkable thing, which competitors like GM and Ford have understated … the Lightning looks like its contemporary F-150, the Silverado, absent a tailpipe, has nothing more than a discolored "e" to distinguish it from its "burn stuff" siblings. Rivian is missing the target of utility in one or two form-over-function faux pas, for example the high lift-over of the nose to reach into the frunk instead of a flat, low load height which even GM and Ford managed, and the spare tire trapped under the cargo bed instead of being accessible from the rear bumper – I imagine it was a tricky decision and fair enough, there's the upside that the tire well is a sort of "smugglers locker" for more storage. I hope Range Rover manages to do as well as Rivian while picking up some of the utility features from GM and Ford. Hopefully Rivian, for the R2 or the R1 version 2 sticks the not-a-grill on the hood, though I'm afraid we're stuck with the oddball headlights forever. Maybe the R2 will be distinctive and no burdened with the family genes.

Could not agree more. I love the Rivian design except for the headlights. They look very cartoonish to me. I do wish it would be a bit more "mainstream."

 

[Max]

We spotted this R1S back in July when we stopped to charge in Bakersfield. Unfortunately this was the only pic my husband was able to get as we were on our way out and the Rivian had just pulled up.

So if I complain about minior stuff like this at delivery, would they send a mobile unit to fix it? or I will have to take it to service center? Or I will be told this is normal. Live with it.

 

[the long way downunder]

So if complain about minior stuff like this at delivery, would they send a mobile unit to fix it? or I will have to take it to service center? Or I will be told this is normal. Live with it.

They don't look like that any more! : )
I saw ten or fifteen R1Ts at a First Mile event and they were flawless.
That one looks like a hand built mule that's been pulled apart and put back together over and over.

 

[RDB]

It is a good question. Where do you go in the line if you do not accept something like this? Do they fix it? Do they take it back and deliver another one soon. Do you get bumped far down the line? You would hate to feel pressured into accepting something like that because the alternative is waiting a long time.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

So if complain about minior stuff like this at delivery, would they send a mobile unit to fix it? or I will have to take it to service center? Or I will be told this is normal. Live with it.

I agree, if they start pulling Tesla level of BS that issues like these are in spec, I would seriously just refuse delivery as it wouldn’t bode well for how they would handle future issues. I really hope that Rivian doesn’t go down that path. This is one of the main reasons I’m not going to buy another Tesla. They don’t seem to be improving on their quality at all

 

[electruck]

Panel alignment seems to be improving over time. Keep in mind this picture was taken back in July, so still a pre-prod build. Max poses a valid question none the less.

 

[Max]

I agree, if they start pulling Tesla level of BS that issues like these are in spec, I would seriously just refuse delivery as it wouldn’t bode well for how they would handle future issues. I really hope that Rivian doesn’t go down that path. This is one of the main reasons I’m not going to buy another Tesla. They don’t seem to be improving on their quality at all

I think as they ramp up, there is a chance for mishaps but I am hopeful at least initially, they will do what they can to keep customers happy. I have the impression they really care about their image and once customer deliveries are made with no NDA agreements, their service can be the main source of negative comments floating on internet and for a new company, that could be a death sentence. So I think their intention most likely is to keep us happy after delivery. Their ability may be a different story. We will see.

 

[kanundrum]

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