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Hi there RF members, I have a little cautionary note here regarding the experience that I've had to go through with my R1S's misaligned lift gate. For those of you who may be waiting for yours and others who may have experienced similar problems, it's something that we hope Rivian takes seriously.

In short, it's a common problem and one that has slowed down the production and the delivery of R1S from what I've been informed by my service rep at the local Rivian Center. Some VINs, especially the earlier ones like my car, suffer more than others and there are a lucky few that don't have this problem. 4 attempts and 4+ weeks later, the gate is still not aligned correctly and there's nothing that the Service Department can do beyond this point I'm told. Two of those attempts involved trying entirely new lift gate panels with the work performed at a third party body shop. This meant that the techs had to try a new panel sent from the factory to the shop where it was painted and installed each time. The second of these new panels is what is on the car now. Needless to say the problem isn't solved 100% - not to mention the amount of back and forth and the energy and time it has taken.

It's a conundrum when you love the product so much that you want to overlook its imperfections (of which we're overlooking many) but this problem has tainted my overall experience. As an early adopters and a car enthusiast I anticipated some quirks here and there buying a brand new product but not to this extent. It's also hard to justify this for a vehicle that is considered premium with a hefty price tag. It's unfortunate that such an amazing piece of machinery is haunted by what seems like a well-established technology -- the lift gate. Rivian is trying to make things right and their Service staff has been absolutely great. They must be overwhelmed trying to compensate and make the customers happy to the best of their ability - all for the lack of quality control and company's manufacturing short comings.

Yes I can understand that this is a new company and they're still learning and improving upon their process and products but this can't be an excuse to deliver the R1S at full price when they are and have been aware of the lift gate defects. If a VIN is suffering from a misaligned lift gate and cannot be corrected it would only benefit Rivian longterm to offer to help refund, replace or compensate the affected owners as the company grows the brand and continues to establish itself as a contender in the market. Hey I'm rooting for Rivian, but at the moment I'm still waiting to hear from their leadership team on the next steps!

Description for the photos below from top to bottom:

Photo 1: original gap from the manufacturer
Photos 2 and 3: End results. The gate is slightly angled looking at the car straight on from behind. And the gap from top to bottom of the piano black trim looking from the side is uneven where it's quite tight at the top and pretty wide - shy of .25" - at the bottom. The bottom of the gate is also sticking out slightly on both sides - seen from profile.


Rivian R1T R1S R1S misaligned lift gate(s) - gaps and assembly issues IMG_5368


Rivian R1T R1S R1S misaligned lift gate(s) - gaps and assembly issues 123_1-(2)


Rivian R1T R1S R1S misaligned lift gate(s) - gaps and assembly issues IMG_5614
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Hi there RF members, I have a little cautionary note here regarding the experience that I've had to go through with my R1S's misaligned lift gate. For those of you who may be waiting for yours and others who may have experienced similar problems, it's something that we hope Rivian takes seriously.

In short, it's a common problem and one that has slowed down the production and the delivery of R1S from what I've been informed by my service rep at the local Rivian Center. Some VINs, especially the earlier ones like my car, suffer more than others and there are a lucky few that don't have this problem. 4 attempts and 4+ weeks later, the gate is still not aligned correctly and there's nothing that the Service Department can do beyond this point I'm told. Two of those attempts involved trying entirely new lift gate panels with the work performed at a third party body shop. This meant that the techs had to try a new panel sent from the factory to the shop where it was painted and installed each time. The second of these new panels is what is on the car now. Needless to say the problem isn't solved 100% - not to mention the amount of back and forth and the energy and time it has taken.

It's a conundrum when you love the product so much that you want to overlook its imperfections (of which we're overlooking many) but this problem has tainted my overall experience. As an early adopters and a car enthusiast I anticipated some quirks here and there buying a brand new product but not to this extent. It's also hard to justify this for a vehicle that is considered premium with a hefty price tag. It's unfortunate that such an amazing piece of machinery is haunted by what seems like a well-established technology -- the lift gate. Rivian is trying to make things right and their Service staff has been absolutely great. They must be overwhelmed trying to compensate and make the customers happy to the best of their ability - all for the lack of quality control and company's manufacturing short comings.

Yes I can understand that this is a new company and they're still learning and improving upon their process and products but this can't be an excuse to deliver the R1S at full price when they are and have been aware of the lift gate defects. If a VIN is suffering from a misaligned lift gate and cannot be corrected it would only benefit Rivian longterm to offer to help refund, replace or compensate the affected owners as the company grows the brand and continues to establish itself as a contender in the market. I'm rooting for Rivian and want the company to succeed, but at the moment I'm still waiting to hear from their leadership team on the next steps!



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Keep us upto date, because as you said the tailgate have been almost uniformly misaligned on one axis or another.
 

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Hi, I have an early VIN 2022 R1S 008XX and had the same rear liftgate misalignment issue that was a little worse than yours now. The Chicago service center initially didn't want to touch the liftgate because there's high possibility that after the adjustment, it will leak water. Somehow they manged to manually align the tail lights across and the liftgate flush with the quarter panels, without any water leaking, but the top of my liftgate is 0.2 inch lower than the roof panel. The technician told me early R1S up to VIN 15XX all had the issue of the rear liftgate being slightly maybe 0.2~0.3 inch too small. I am OK with this solution as the liftgate top is visually less noticeable. Just for your reference.
 

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Hi, I have an early VIN 2022 R1S 008XX and had the same rear liftgate misalignment issue that was a little worse than yours now. The Chicago service center initially didn't want to touch the liftgate because there's high possibility that after the adjustment, it will leak water. Somehow they manged to manually align the tail lights across and the liftgate flush with the quarter panels, without any water leaking, but the top of my liftgate is 0.2 inch lower than the roof panel. The technician told me early R1S up to VIN 15XX all had the issue of the rear liftgate being slightly maybe 0.2~0.3 inch too small. I am OK with this solution as the liftgate top is visually less noticeable. Just for your reference.
I will confirm that this problem extended to at least VIN 38xx and, while I can't confirm this first hand, I suspect probably well beyond.
 
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Keep us upto date, because as you said the tailgate have been almost uniformly misaligned on one axis or another.
Keep us upto date, because as you said the tailgate have been almost uniformly misaligned on one axis or another.
Sure I updated my post above with descriptions for the photos. You can see the original gap and the final results -- which clearly show how the gate is still not aligned. The original gap was sort of fixed only to create new gaps.
 

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The tailgate seems to be a constant issue in some way or another. I’ve had mine replaced (for a dent on delivery) and resprayed by a body shop. It looks a lot better overall than the original tailgate did, but it’s still not as good as some others I’ve seen.

One of the service vehicles at the El Segundo SC looked literally perfect. I was honestly in awe and couldn’t find any exterior flaws. I wonder what magic they had to do to make it look like that.
 
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FYI. My vin is 51xx and lift gate alignment is still there. However, it is not as obvious as Op. They fixed it and still a little off imo. I asked other people and they can't tell, so maybe it is me. I decided to just let it go and enjoy the vehicle

owners with later VIN numbers, please feel free to chime in about lift gate panel misalignment. I would like to know if rivian fixed this problem
 
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My S has this issue as well. The SC greatly improved it, but it’s a far cry from other manufacturers. My BMW X5 makes the S look like it was put together by a blind person after a 3-Martini lunch.

But, it’s easy enough to improve at the SC. Eventually they will get it to a point where the positives of the vehicle overwhelm the fitment issues.

Oh, and just don’t walk around the back of it.
 

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My S VIN is 70xx and the panel gaps along the passenger side from front quarter panel, both doors, and rear lift gate are pretty bad even after a trip to Dallas service center. Enjoy the car but really at a loss as to next steps. Our Land Rover is significantly better aligned and another S at delivery had none of these issues.
 

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I am in the 3000s. I guess mine must be bad as the one above doesn't look terrible. It is pretty noticeable on mine. I had to take the care in for a bunch of minor issues and asked about this. They said they could spend time making it better but it wouldn't go away. FWIW they had some S's they were prepping for delivery. The gaps were much much better (though noticeable).
IMO the tailgate gap is the only 'bad' one.

People should be happy for the money they spend, but I don't really care much about this (if I did, I would work to get it fixed as best it could weighed versus the time and effort to get it done).
 

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My S VIN is 70xx and the panel gaps along the passenger side from front quarter panel, both doors, and rear lift gate are pretty bad even after a trip to Dallas service center. Enjoy the car but really at a loss as to next steps. Our Land Rover is significantly better aligned and another S at delivery had none of these issues.
I had the same issues with the gaps . Lift gate is the worst of all. I think the Dallas service center is not very experienced with this gap realignment thing. I took it in 2 months ago with 7 issues and they resolved 3. I will wait for them to get better before I bring it back second time.
 

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VIN 4xxx definitely has fitment issues. Not leaking and perfectly functional so I'll wait until I have to go for service.
 

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how did that ever get past "quality control"? Is this a sign of bigger issues with processes?
 

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Hi there RF members, I have a little cautionary note here regarding the experience that I've had to go through with my R1S's misaligned lift gate. For those of you who may be waiting for yours and others who may have experienced similar problems, it's something that we hope Rivian takes seriously.

In short, it's a common problem and one that has slowed down the production and the delivery of R1S from what I've been informed by my service rep at the local Rivian Center. Some VINs, especially the earlier ones like my car, suffer more than others and there are a lucky few that don't have this problem. 4 attempts and 4+ weeks later, the gate is still not aligned correctly and there's nothing that the Service Department can do beyond this point I'm told. Two of those attempts involved trying entirely new lift gate panels with the work performed at a third party body shop. This meant that the techs had to try a new panel sent from the factory to the shop where it was painted and installed each time. The second of these new panels is what is on the car now. Needless to say the problem isn't solved 100% - not to mention the amount of back and forth and the energy and time it has taken.

It's a conundrum when you love the product so much that you want to overlook its imperfections (of which we're overlooking many) but this problem has tainted my overall experience. As an early adopters and a car enthusiast I anticipated some quirks here and there buying a brand new product but not to this extent. It's also hard to justify this for a vehicle that is considered premium with a hefty price tag. It's unfortunate that such an amazing piece of machinery is haunted by what seems like a well-established technology -- the lift gate. Rivian is trying to make things right and their Service staff has been absolutely great. They must be overwhelmed trying to compensate and make the customers happy to the best of their ability - all for the lack of quality control and company's manufacturing short comings.

Yes I can understand that this is a new company and they're still learning and improving upon their process and products but this can't be an excuse to deliver the R1S at full price when they are and have been aware of the lift gate defects. If a VIN is suffering from a misaligned lift gate and cannot be corrected it would only benefit Rivian longterm to offer to help refund, replace or compensate the affected owners as the company grows the brand and continues to establish itself as a contender in the market. Hey I'm rooting for Rivian, but at the moment I'm still waiting to hear from their leadership team on the next steps!

Description for the photos below from top to bottom:

Photo 1: original gap from the manufacturer
Photos 2 and 3: End results. The gate is slightly angled looking at the car straight on from behind. And the gap from top to bottom of the piano black trim looking from the side is uneven where it's quite tight at the top and pretty wide - shy of .25" - at the bottom. The bottom of the gate is also sticking out slightly on both sides - seen from profile.


IMG_5368.jpg


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As someone who is taking delivery soon of a R1S I appreciate your post. It really is unfortunate that the QC for Rivian is like this I thought by now they would have dramatically improved but looks like the priority is all about pumping out volume at this point. I’ll definitely be looking out for this. Thanks!
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