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There are things about each vehicle I like... Top trump still goes to the Rivian, as the 835hp/908tq cant be touched.. But there are certain things about the EV9 I do like better, seats being the first thing that come to mind. 2nd row captains chairs next. AA/CP next... etc.
 

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There are things about each vehicle I like... Top trump still goes to the Rivian, as the 835hp/908tq cant be touched.. But there are certain things about the EV9 I do like better, seats being the first thing that come to mind. 2nd row captains chairs next. AA/CP next... etc.
My KIA has some things that are much better than my T. Their driver + is superior as are the window operations. The T is beyond compare otherwise.
 

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I'm going to pull the trigger on the Kia EV9 as my secondary. Incentives and rates are too good to pass up on (13K off on incentives and 0% financing and low MF). GT-LINE, zero down, is 759 per month whereas a standard pack with 2k down (fees) is $993 for a 80,600 unit in the shop.

comparable range, but nearly $200 cheaper with assurance of available nearby service shops for the Kia.

Having test drove the EV9 and R1S, I can tell you the EV9's ride quality is superior (so much smoother, quieter, etc.) and the interior space feels much more cavernous probably due to the captain chairs. The 2nd row legroom is I think 6 inches greater too.

I've got a Large Pack custom order that appears to be taking a very long time due to the rumored delays of regular large pack batteries. I would be perfectly fine with delivery in early 2025 as rates should be lower, resulting in a smaller payment gap.

I think a Kia EV9 and R1S Gen 2 would be one heck of a pairing.
 

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I'm going to pull the trigger on the Kia EV9 as my secondary. Incentives and rates are too good to pass up on (13K off on incentives and 0% financing and low MF). GT-LINE, zero down, is 759 per month whereas a standard pack with 2k down (fees) is $993 for a 80,600 unit in the shop.

comparable range, but nearly $200 cheaper with assurance of available nearby service shops for the Kia.

Having test drove the EV9 and R1S, I can tell you the EV9's ride quality is superior (so much smoother, quieter, etc.) and the interior space feels much more cavernous probably due to the captain chairs. The 2nd row legroom is I think 6 inches greater too.

I've got a Large Pack custom order that appears to be taking a very long time due to the rumored delays of regular large pack batteries. I would be perfectly fine with delivery in early 2025 as rates should be lower, resulting in a smaller payment gap.

I think a Kia EV9 and R1S Gen 2 would be one heck of a pairing.
KIA makes a great EV, but comparing prices is ludicrous. Like comparing a Tacoma to a Corolla. It would be a good pairing though.
 

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I'm seeing fairly large numbers of EV9s on the road. Mostly driven by women that I've seen. Maybe because I live close to an elementary school and see the drop offs...

The other day, at the stop light, a guy in a EV9 acted like wanted to race off the line. He kept looking over and creeping the vehicle up little by little. I'm in R1S quad. So when the light turned green, I did nothing and slowly proceeded as he raced off the line. Hope I made his day. I mean what's the point. Clearly he has no chance if I actually reacted.

So the comparison goes on. Both are 3 row EVs with very different targeted audience but vast majority of people just see eSUV so they compare....
 

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I'm going to pull the trigger on the Kia EV9 as my secondary. Incentives and rates are too good to pass up on (13K off on incentives and 0% financing and low MF). GT-LINE, zero down, is 759 per month whereas a standard pack with 2k down (fees) is $993 for a 80,600 unit in the shop.

comparable range, but nearly $200 cheaper with assurance of available nearby service shops for the Kia.

Having test drove the EV9 and R1S, I can tell you the EV9's ride quality is superior (so much smoother, quieter, etc.) and the interior space feels much more cavernous probably due to the captain chairs. The 2nd row legroom is I think 6 inches greater too.

I've got a Large Pack custom order that appears to be taking a very long time due to the rumored delays of regular large pack batteries. I would be perfectly fine with delivery in early 2025 as rates should be lower, resulting in a smaller payment gap.

I think a Kia EV9 and R1S Gen 2 would be one heck of a pairing.
The EV9 is a great car the issue is going software. The Kia is what it is and what it will always be, yeah you may get minor software updates for the infotainment but nothing like a Rivian or a Tesla. Also the lack of a real front trunk would kill me.

But there are some pluses on the EV9, others have mentioned some. The opening sunroof is one that I really like.
 

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The EV9 is a great car the issue is going software. The Kia is what it is and what it will always be, yeah you may get minor software updates for the infotainment but nothing like a Rivian or a Tesla. Also the lack of a real front trunk would kill me.

But there are some pluses on the EV9, others have mentioned some. The opening sunroof is one that I really like.
I am leasing so I don’t worry on out-dated software, plus the Kia has Apple CarPlay which is huge for me.

The frunk on the EV9 is a joke but one that I can live with considering the substantially lower monthly payments. It is really is more targeted for families, almost mini-van like TBH. I’m not sure how long the ride quality would last but, it’s more comfortable than the standard suspension BMW iX which I currently drive. BMW naturally has firmer suspensions so no big surprise but I was very pleased with the EV9 ride comfort and quiet cabin. I wish it had less futuristic tron design elements but otherwise it is a great family hauler. I was shopping against ICE SUVs like the new MDX and 2025 Tahoe, but their lease payments are much higher and they are slower. EVs are seriously amazing.
 

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I am leasing so I don’t worry on out-dated software, plus the Kia has Apple CarPlay which is huge for me.

The frunk on the EV9 is a joke but one that I can live with considering the substantially lower monthly payments. It is really is more targeted for families, almost mini-van like TBH. I’m not sure how long the ride quality would last but, it’s more comfortable than the standard suspension BMW iX which I currently drive. BMW naturally has firmer suspensions so no big surprise but I was very pleased with the EV9 ride comfort and quiet cabin. I wish it had less futuristic tron design elements but otherwise it is a great family hauler. I was shopping against ICE SUVs like the new MDX and 2025 Tahoe, but their lease payments are much higher and they are slower. EVs are seriously amazing.
A good software example is 'Pet mode'. For dog owners this is huge. I recently owned an Ioniq 5 and I couldn't road trip it in summer without it.

Also a fan of CarPlay, the recent addition of Apple Music bridges a lot of that gap but it's not all the way there yet. Not knocking the EV9 the mechanicals of it are fantastic (I test drove one), the lease deals on them right now are amazing. I'm betting Rivian will be offering better lease deals towards the end of the year.
 

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I still dislike the exterior of the EV9, but there are some nice things on it. Room like a van, but looks like an SUV. There are certain things I was unwilling to compromise on. Range is extremely limited if you opt for the AWD at under 290 miles. IMO, if you are paying over 60k for an EV and you can't even advertise a 300 mile EPA estimate, then it's just a hard pass. It's why we gave up on the VW ID Buzz.
 

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I still dislike the exterior of the EV9, but there are some nice things on it. Room like a van, but looks like an SUV. There are certain things I was unwilling to compromise on. Range is extremely limited if you opt for the AWD at under 290 miles. IMO, if you are paying over 60k for an EV and you can't even advertise a 300 mile EPA estimate, then it's just a hard pass. It's why we gave up on the VW ID Buzz.
Makes sense. Range is a lot harder for vehicles this large and blocky compared to something like the model X. You'd have to put in a 120 kWh battery which is huge. But I was surprised how much rated range the EV9 loses by going up to AWD and performance models.
 

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I respect the EV9 but, man oh man, to my eyes it looks silly. There’s a lot of form without any function
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