R1T Max Pack Real World Range FWIW: 315 miles

[PhatDaddy]

you are losing a ton in the tires you have. my max r1s on 22s went for 360 actual miles off of 380 at 70 mph

No doubt! Had 22s on original config (hence my mistake stating 22s on my OP), but switched to ATs just before delivery… mostly because I liked the looked so much better. I just needed 300+ range, and the Max got me that (and at early pricing), so I’m happy with my choices. And lots more charging options now and coming soon! But that is great range you are getting - congrats!

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[PhatDaddy]

So I'm still wondering why in the world the nav thought your range would be 369 miles?

Same here... no idea. But probably as other have said, Nav guesstimate is probably based strictly on posted speed limit... and my foot was not.

 

[YouKnowWhatsUp]

I don’t think this is that horrible. If you were doing a mix of interstate and back roads, that means you had to accelerate from a stop and you weren’t going a constant speed. R1T is like 7000 pounds. It takes a lot to get that moving.
if your entire trip was on the freeway going 65 set with the cruise control the entire time and you got 315 then yes I would say it’s not very good. I haven’t taken my R1T on a long trip yet so I haven’t been able to test range when I drive on the same freeway for 400 miles to Arizona. I’m curious if to see what my efficiency will be compared to yours.

Do you think the cross bars take away any efficiency?

 

[Epicloop]

Hope this is helpful to others considering a Max Pack... even though the Max Pack is not the MAX Pack we all hoped for years ago.

Thanks for the thorough report. 6.5hrs of driving time is not bad.

 

[PhatDaddy]

I don’t think this is that horrible. If you were doing a mix of interstate and back roads, that means you had to accelerate from a stop and you weren’t going a constant speed. R1T is like 7000 pounds. It takes a lot to get that moving.
if your entire trip was on the freeway going 65 set with the cruise control the entire time and you got 315 then yes I would say it’s not very good. I haven’t taken my R1T on a long trip yet so I haven’t been able to test range when I drive on the same freeway for 400 miles to Arizona. I’m curious if to see what my efficiency will be compared to yours.

Do you think the cross bars take away any efficiency?

Don't know, but I mentioned them because it might... same with tonneau cover. I don't normally run with the cross bars attached.

 

[YouKnowWhatsUp]

Don't know, but I mentioned them because it might... same with tonneau cover. I don't normally run with the cross bars attached.

I have read the tonneau cover can slightly increase efficiency. I haven’t received mine yet, so I can’t say from personal experience.

 

[R1Thor]

I don’t think this is that horrible. If you were doing a mix of interstate and back roads, that means you had to accelerate from a stop and you weren’t going a constant speed. R1T is like 7000 pounds. It takes a lot to get that moving.
if your entire trip was on the freeway going 65 set with the cruise control the entire time and you got 315 then yes I would say it’s not very good. I haven’t taken my R1T on a long trip yet so I haven’t been able to test range when I drive on the same freeway for 400 miles to Arizona. I’m curious if to see what my efficiency will be compared to yours.

Do you think the cross bars take away any efficiency?

Don't know, but I mentioned them because it might... same with tonneau cover. I don't normally run with the cross bars attached.

My anecdotal experience is that the crossbars ABSOLUTELY zap efficiency (I have a 141 mile daily commute. I had them installed for about 2 weeks because they looked cool, then pulled them off and haven't thought about reinstalling them until I need to actually use them). My delta was almost 8% with vs without. (IE: if it was 'costing' me 50% SoC to make my round trip--which is approximately average over the summer--it was costing me approximately 54-55% with the crossbars on). THAT said, for the sake of data and transparency, I drive highway speeds, which is 70 on the highway (18 miles one way) and 75-80 mph on the interstate (32 miles one way). I'm sure that also contributes, so if you're more conservative, your cross-bar efficiency hit is likely closer 2-3%, but not nothing.

I have found my tonneau cover has 0 notable impact (with or without it, so...I leave it installed to keep leaves out of the bed). And I've also tried combinations of cross bars with and without the tonneau, and saw the same results FWIW.

 

[PhatDaddy]

My anecdotal experience is that the crossbars ABSOLUTELY zap efficiency (I have a 141 mile daily commute. I had them installed for about 2 weeks because they looked cool, then pulled them off and haven't thought about reinstalling them until I need to actually use them). My delta was almost 8% with vs without. (IE: if it was 'costing' me 50% SoC to make my round trip--which is approximately average over the summer--it was costing me approximately 54-55% with the crossbars on). THAT said, for the sake of data and transparency, I drive highway speeds, which is 70 on the highway (18 miles one way) and 75-80 mph on the interstate (32 miles one way). I'm sure that also contributes, so if you're more conservative, your cross-bar efficiency hit is likely closer 2-3%, but not nothing.

Just to clarify since you didn't say specifically... your results are with crossbars installed over the bed, not on the cab roof, correct? Thanks for the feedback.

 

[R1Thor]

Just to clarify since you didn't say specifically... your results are with crossbars installed over the bed, not on the cab roof, correct? Thanks for the feedback.

Yes, correct! Installed over the bed.

Sorry, I missed that detail in yours. So, if I just added a ton of irrelevant (to the conversation) information, that's my bad.

 

[PhatDaddy]

Yes, correct! Installed over the bed.

Sorry, I missed that detail in yours. So, if I just added a ton of irrelevant (to the conversation) information, that's my bad.

No, all good. Good information. Like I said in my post, I don't usually leave cross bars on, but given your feedback, I will definitely take off unless needed. Thanks.

 

[Rural1T]

Thanks for the writeup! I recently took delivery of an AT/Max configuration and have been wanting to run a similar 100% to 1% test but haven't had time yet. Good to have some data!

 

[Rural1T]

Don't those tires bring the EPA range spec down to 355mi for the max pack? That's what the website shows. So I'm curious why the Rivian nav estimator was 369 miles?

Your stats check out too. At 2.24 m/kWh you should get ~ 327 miles which you basically did considering the overnight use of Gear Guard. So I'm still wondering why in the world the nav thought your range would be 369 miles?

Not being critical, just genuinely curious.

I have also have a AT/Max config. From playing around with the truck, I think the discrepancy between the 355 rated miles and the 369 displayed is due to drive mode selection. I think the 355 mile estimate is based on All-Purpose with Standard ride height (EPA test data). If my truck is charged to 100%, selecting Auto or Low ride height bumps the range estimate to 369 miles. Changing the drive mode to All-Terrain lowers the range estimate.

 

[JamuJoe]

I reserved and waited for 2.5 years for my R1T (delivered 12/30/2023) with Max Pack specifically to have an EV truck that (I hoped) could make our typically monthly trip from our house in coastal Florida to our condo (with no easy access to charger at the condo) in Ocala, FL, and return… all without charging, and along our preferred (no tolls) route. Typical trip is somewhat over 300 miles R/T. This weekend was my first opportunity to test the range..

04/06/2024-04/07-2024
SOC: From 100% down to 1%

2024 R1T with approx. 3000 miles on odometer
Dual Motor Performance
OEM 20” Wheels AT Tires
Underbody Shield
Full-size spare
Aftermarket Tonneau Cover (Interrobang)
Cargo Cross Bars installed over bed

SOC: 100%
Vehicle Estimated Range: 369 miles
Mode: All-Purpose – low – regen: standard
Ambient temp range: 73-81
Wind (observational): Negligible along entire trip
Battery temp range: 97-121
Elevation range: 1’-167’ (Florida flatland with a few overpasses and bridges)
AC on for entire trip. Set to range of 73-76
Streaming music for entire trip.
Fairly smooth/conservative driving within 5 mph of posted speed limit for entire trip, with a couple of 'bursts' to pass cars on rural roads.

1st leg: 10 minutes rural/urban mix. Speed: zero to 45 mph
2nd leg: 1 hour 7 minutes interstate with 4 min. of congestion that brought speed down to zero a couple of times. Speed: zero to 74 mph
3rd leg: 1 hour 5 minutes rural county roads with a few scattered traffic lights and slower areas. Speed: zero to 71 mph
4th leg: 10 minutes urban. Speed zero to 45 mph
... and a couple of short local urban trips 10-15 minutes each in Ocala. Speed zero to 45 mph.

Overnight sleep. Gear Guard on. Temp down to about 62.

5th leg (return – same route): 15 minutes urban; 1 hour rural; 1 hour 5 minutes interstate; 10 minutes urban… speed ranges same as outbound trip, but no congestion this time on the interstate.

6th leg. At end of trip arrived home with estimated 28 miles of range remaining, so didn’t stop and instead continued another 13 miles down the road, then turned around and drove back to burn off the last few miles and see what the vehicle would really do at close to zero. Received ‘Low Battery’ warning at 5 miles remaining and arrived at home with SOC at 1% and 1 estimated mile remaining.

Per on-screen trip monitor: 315.4 miles; 6 hours 30 min. driving; average speed: 48 mph. YMMV
Trip Efficiency: 2.24 m/kWh
kWh used: 142

So… in great weather, in flat elevation Florida: Estimated Range: 369 miles; Actual Range: 315 miles (85% of Rivian estimate)

In the years since I first reserved my R1T, charging options have changed of course, and Rivian just recently opened the Daytona Beach RAN charger, which is right along our preferred route and maybe 2 min. off the interstate. And with Tesla chargers coming online for us, good choices will become even more plentiful. So I am happy there is now no reason to regularly tax the R1T's battery with 100% to zero charge cycles… we’ll just stop by the RAN for a quick fill up on the way up or back. But nice to know what is possible if needed.

Hope this is helpful to others considering a Max Pack... even though the Max Pack is not the MAX Pack we all hoped for years ago.

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[JamuJoe]

I reserved and waited for 2.5 years for my R1T (delivered 12/30/2023) with Max Pack specifically to have an EV truck that (I hoped) could make our typically monthly trip from our house in coastal Florida to our condo (with no easy access to charger at the condo) in Ocala, FL, and return… all without charging, and along our preferred (no tolls) route. Typical trip is somewhat over 300 miles R/T. This weekend was my first opportunity to test the range..

04/06/2024-04/07-2024
SOC: From 100% down to 1%

2024 R1T with approx. 3000 miles on odometer
Dual Motor Performance
OEM 20” Wheels AT Tires
Underbody Shield
Full-size spare
Aftermarket Tonneau Cover (Interrobang)
Cargo Cross Bars installed over bed

SOC: 100%
Vehicle Estimated Range: 369 miles
Mode: All-Purpose – low – regen: standard
Ambient temp range: 73-81
Wind (observational): Negligible along entire trip
Battery temp range: 97-121
Elevation range: 1’-167’ (Florida flatland with a few overpasses and bridges)
AC on for entire trip. Set to range of 73-76
Streaming music for entire trip.
Fairly smooth/conservative driving within 5 mph of posted speed limit for entire trip, with a couple of 'bursts' to pass cars on rural roads.

1st leg: 10 minutes rural/urban mix. Speed: zero to 45 mph
2nd leg: 1 hour 7 minutes interstate with 4 min. of congestion that brought speed down to zero a couple of times. Speed: zero to 74 mph
3rd leg: 1 hour 5 minutes rural county roads with a few scattered traffic lights and slower areas. Speed: zero to 71 mph
4th leg: 10 minutes urban. Speed zero to 45 mph
... and a couple of short local urban trips 10-15 minutes each in Ocala. Speed zero to 45 mph.

Overnight sleep. Gear Guard on. Temp down to about 62.

5th leg (return – same route): 15 minutes urban; 1 hour rural; 1 hour 5 minutes interstate; 10 minutes urban… speed ranges same as outbound trip, but no congestion this time on the interstate.

6th leg. At end of trip arrived home with estimated 28 miles of range remaining, so didn’t stop and instead continued another 13 miles down the road, then turned around and drove back to burn off the last few miles and see what the vehicle would really do at close to zero. Received ‘Low Battery’ warning at 5 miles remaining and arrived at home with SOC at 1% and 1 estimated mile remaining.

Per on-screen trip monitor: 315.4 miles; 6 hours 30 min. driving; average speed: 48 mph. YMMV
Trip Efficiency: 2.24 m/kWh
kWh used: 142

So… in great weather, in flat elevation Florida: Estimated Range: 369 miles; Actual Range: 315 miles (85% of Rivian estimate)

In the years since I first reserved my R1T, charging options have changed of course, and Rivian just recently opened the Daytona Beach RAN charger, which is right along our preferred route and maybe 2 min. off the interstate. And with Tesla chargers coming online for us, good choices will become even more plentiful. So I am happy there is now no reason to regularly tax the R1T's battery with 100% to zero charge cycles… we’ll just stop by the RAN for a quick fill up on the way up or back. But nice to know what is possible if needed.

Hope this is helpful to others considering a Max Pack... even though the Max Pack is not the MAX Pack we all hoped for years ago.

I reserved and waited for 2.5 years for my R1T (delivered 12/30/2023) with Max Pack specifically to have an EV truck that (I hoped) could make our typically monthly trip from our house in coastal Florida to our condo (with no easy access to charger at the condo) in Ocala, FL, and return… all without charging, and along our preferred (no tolls) route. Typical trip is somewhat over 300 miles R/T. This weekend was my first opportunity to test the range..

04/06/2024-04/07-2024
SOC: From 100% down to 1%

2024 R1T with approx. 3000 miles on odometer
Dual Motor Performance
OEM 20” Wheels AT Tires
Underbody Shield
Full-size spare
Aftermarket Tonneau Cover (Interrobang)
Cargo Cross Bars installed over bed

SOC: 100%
Vehicle Estimated Range: 369 miles
Mode: All-Purpose – low – regen: standard
Ambient temp range: 73-81
Wind (observational): Negligible along entire trip
Battery temp range: 97-121
Elevation range: 1’-167’ (Florida flatland with a few overpasses and bridges)
AC on for entire trip. Set to range of 73-76
Streaming music for entire trip.
Fairly smooth/conservative driving within 5 mph of posted speed limit for entire trip, with a couple of 'bursts' to pass cars on rural roads.

1st leg: 10 minutes rural/urban mix. Speed: zero to 45 mph
2nd leg: 1 hour 7 minutes interstate with 4 min. of congestion that brought speed down to zero a couple of times. Speed: zero to 74 mph
3rd leg: 1 hour 5 minutes rural county roads with a few scattered traffic lights and slower areas. Speed: zero to 71 mph
4th leg: 10 minutes urban. Speed zero to 45 mph
... and a couple of short local urban trips 10-15 minutes each in Ocala. Speed zero to 45 mph.

Overnight sleep. Gear Guard on. Temp down to about 62.

5th leg (return – same route): 15 minutes urban; 1 hour rural; 1 hour 5 minutes interstate; 10 minutes urban… speed ranges same as outbound trip, but no congestion this time on the interstate.

6th leg. At end of trip arrived home with estimated 28 miles of range remaining, so didn’t stop and instead continued another 13 miles down the road, then turned around and drove back to burn off the last few miles and see what the vehicle would really do at close to zero. Received ‘Low Battery’ warning at 5 miles remaining and arrived at home with SOC at 1% and 1 estimated mile remaining.

Per on-screen trip monitor: 315.4 miles; 6 hours 30 min. driving; average speed: 48 mph. YMMV
Trip Efficiency: 2.24 m/kWh
kWh used: 142

So… in great weather, in flat elevation Florida: Estimated Range: 369 miles; Actual Range: 315 miles (85% of Rivian estimate)

In the years since I first reserved my R1T, charging options have changed of course, and Rivian just recently opened the Daytona Beach RAN charger, which is right along our preferred route and maybe 2 min. off the interstate. And with Tesla chargers coming online for us, good choices will become even more plentiful. So I am happy there is now no reason to regularly tax the R1T's battery with 100% to zero charge cycles… we’ll just stop by the RAN for a quick fill up on the way up or back. But nice to know what is possible if needed.

Hope this is helpful to others considering a Max Pack... even though the Max Pack is not the MAX Pack we all hoped for years ago.

The lower efficiency was to be expected with 20” AT tires. Rivian advised of this. My R1T, dual performance max pack, Red Canyon, is getting the full advertised range on the Pirelli 21” All Season tires, which have been fine performers through a snowy Colorado winter and towing an 8000 lb. trailer. No offense, but it begs the question - Why would you choose AT tires to drive highways in Florida?

 

[PhatDaddy]

The lower efficiency was to be expected with 20” AT tires… No offense, but it begs the question - Why would you choose AT tires to drive highways in Florida?

No offense taken. I worked and planned for many years to get to the point where I could splurge on a vehicle with the performance, comfort, utility, inexpensive operation, and dashing good looks of my R1T (on rugged looking All-Terrain tires). And I got exactly the range I needed and exactly the look I wanted. So I’m a happy guy with no complaints living in my personal little slice of paradise ?

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