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While Rivian vehicles are awesome, their marketing is straight out of big carmaker playbook: treat customers like mushrooms by keeping them in the dark and feeding them B.S. This leaves us on our own to figure out order status..
Rivian communicated to Wall Street, but not to customers, that pre-orders by end of Q3'21 and Q4'21 were 48,390 and 71,000, respectively. This gives a quarterly order growth rate of 50%, enabling estimation of the cumulative pre-orders at the end of each '20 and '21 quarter.
Q1'20___Q2'20___Q3'20___Q4'20___Q1'21___Q2'21___Q3'21___Q4'21
4900___7000___10,000___15,000___22,500___33,000__48,400__71,000
There are many guesses that have floated around about pre-order numbers. One was in Feb'21, by Frost & Sullivan of 10,000 pre-orders by end of Q4'20. This is within one quarter of the above estimation using 50% pre-order growth rate.
Rivian communicated to Wall Street that in Q1'22 it made about 1,500 vehicles and in 2022 it will make 25,000. This gives a quarterly production growth rate of about 150%, enabling estimation of the cumulative production at the end of each '22 quarter.
Q1'22___Q2'22___Q3'22___Q4'22
1500___4000___10,000___25,000
Putting the two together:
pre-order in: 2018, 2019___2020___Q1'21___Q2'21-Q4'21
delivery in: _____Q2'22____Q3'22___Q4'22____2023
If cumulative production of 25,000 vehicles is delayed by a quarter, delivery estimates are also delayed by a quarter.
Comments?
Rivian communicated to Wall Street, but not to customers, that pre-orders by end of Q3'21 and Q4'21 were 48,390 and 71,000, respectively. This gives a quarterly order growth rate of 50%, enabling estimation of the cumulative pre-orders at the end of each '20 and '21 quarter.
Q1'20___Q2'20___Q3'20___Q4'20___Q1'21___Q2'21___Q3'21___Q4'21
4900___7000___10,000___15,000___22,500___33,000__48,400__71,000
There are many guesses that have floated around about pre-order numbers. One was in Feb'21, by Frost & Sullivan of 10,000 pre-orders by end of Q4'20. This is within one quarter of the above estimation using 50% pre-order growth rate.
Rivian communicated to Wall Street that in Q1'22 it made about 1,500 vehicles and in 2022 it will make 25,000. This gives a quarterly production growth rate of about 150%, enabling estimation of the cumulative production at the end of each '22 quarter.
Q1'22___Q2'22___Q3'22___Q4'22
1500___4000___10,000___25,000
Putting the two together:
pre-order in: 2018, 2019___2020___Q1'21___Q2'21-Q4'21
delivery in: _____Q2'22____Q3'22___Q4'22____2023
If cumulative production of 25,000 vehicles is delayed by a quarter, delivery estimates are also delayed by a quarter.
Comments?
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