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$76k for a work truck seems like it will be a tough sell, but maybe there are fleet deals that will bring the cost down. interesting times.
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$80k for a work truck is outrageous.

WT Exterior
Small infotainment screen
Vinyl seats
Rubber floors
Smaller wheels
No folding mitigate
No fancy ass tailgate

No bueno.

I'm interested to hear what an LT or LTZ equivalent trim with the 350 mile battery clocks in at though. Assuming they can cost control there, it would be really interesting.

I also think it looks like a chungus. Seriously, look at the size of that lad.
 

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$80k for a work truck is outrageous.

WT Exterior
Small infotainment screen
Vinyl seats
Rubber floors
Smaller wheels
No folding mitigate
No fancy ass tailgate

No bueno.

I'm interested to hear what an LT or LTZ equivalent trim with the 350 mile battery clocks in at though. Assuming they can cost control there, it would be really interesting.

I also think it looks like a chungus. Seriously, look at the size of that lad.
Welp, the 350 mile WT is $75k. So much for that thought...
 

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$80k for a work truck is outrageous.

WT Exterior
Small infotainment screen
Vinyl seats
Rubber floors
Smaller wheels
No folding mitigate
No fancy ass tailgate

No bueno.

I'm interested to hear what an LT or LTZ equivalent trim with the 350 mile battery clocks in at though. Assuming they can cost control there, it would be really interesting.

I also think it looks like a chungus. Seriously, look at the size of that lad.
:idea:

Would it help the perceived value if they marketed the vinyl seats as vegan leather seats?

Related: Friends of ours with a newer Range Rover PHEV rode in our R1S for the first time this weekend. They loved how quiet it was, the acceleration, the aesthetics, and the frunk storage.

They also said the vinyl/vegan leather seats would keep them from buying a Rivian. I was really surprised.

I’d prefer leather to the vegan leather material, but I don’t see them as radically different because my favorite is actually cloth. So, I’m clearly in the minority when it comes to car upholstery preferences.

I think the typical buyer of today, when comparing two vehicles with different seat materials, will perceive the real leather as more comfortable, higher quality, and/or more luxurious than vegan leather.

I think the legacy manufacturers understand this.

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If I wasnt locked in at Pre-Price Gate pricing, I would be --looking-- at the Silverado.

You can dog on the big name brand auto makers all you want (not just the big 3).. At the end of the day, there is something comforting knowing that if I need service, a local dealer is already in place, to service it.

I am not knocking Rivian here, they are building a network, and it will be a good thing.. as long as you live in a well populated area.

If I were to place an order today which one?

I am tactile in nature, and being that I have yet to put a hand on a Silverado EV...

On the other hand, I have touched, riden in, and drove, a Rivian.

So the order remains with a Rivian
You're assuming that your local dealer will be able to service it. That's not a safe assumption as your local dealer probably isn't going to have an EV mechanic to work on it. Go to the Lightning forum and see all the service horror stories posted there, it looks remarkably similar to here with people complaining about their service with the difference being Ford or GM aren't sending mechanics to your house and personally Rivian has done it twice for me now.
 

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Videos like this are why I don't think the cyberclowncar isn't coming out this year. The Silverado comes out next year yet look at all these journalist reviews. Where are the drive reviews of the Cybertruck that's supposed to be delivered to customers in a matter of months?
 

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As a work truck, it's impressive though would only be interesting if one towed a lot.
This! As a work truck, it's incredibly impressive if you want to go EV......450 mile EPA range WTH!
 

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:idea:

Would it help the perceived value if they marketed the vinyl seats as vegan leather seats?

Related: Friends of ours with a newer Range Rover PHEV rode in our R1S for the first time this weekend. They loved how quiet it was, the acceleration, the aesthetics, and the frunk storage.

They also said the vinyl/vegan leather seats would keep them from buying a Rivian. I was really surprised.

I’d prefer leather to the vegan leather material, but I don’t see them as radically different because my favorite is actually cloth. So, I’m clearly in the minority when it comes to car upholstery preferences.

I think the typical buyer of today, when comparing two vehicles with different seat materials, will perceive the real leather as more comfortable, higher quality, and/or more luxurious than vegan leather.

I think the legacy manufacturers understand this.

Edit: missed a line
On the flip side, there is a large contingent of EV buyers, myself included, who won’t buy an EV that features leather seats. There’s nothing sustainable or ethical about covering interiors in animal skin.
 

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Surely no accident. Try getting a long wheel base vehicle front on into a charging station (unless of course its a straight drive in & back out - which most chargers are not). You need to reverse in. It's one of my pet hates about the R1T having the charge port at the front. Reversing has never been easier with so many cameras and sensors. Citizens of America, don't be afraid to try reverse parking. It's easy.
I'm so glad it's in the front because it's the only hope of charging without removing your trailer
 

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I find that to be legitimately outrageous. What could the justification for that possibly be?
Sometimes it's because backing up is dangerous at the location.

More often it's because you live in a state with only rear license plates and parking enforcement.
 

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On the flip side, there is a large contingent of EV buyers, myself included, who won’t buy an EV that features leather seats. There’s nothing sustainable or ethical about covering interiors in animal skin.
I understand your point of view, but there is a large chunk of the population who disagree with you. When I made the sustainability argument his response was that it seemed like a waste to simply discard the hides of the animals raised for food. I think we’ve strayed far enough off-topic that we should start a new thread in a different area if you want to discuss the merits of using and consuming animals versus the merits of not using and consuming animals.
 

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On the flip side, there is a large contingent of EV buyers, myself included, who won’t buy an EV that features leather seats. There’s nothing sustainable or ethical about covering interiors in animal skin.
Everyone has their own values to stand by.

As a side note though, that would probably only be a valid point for vegaterians though as 99% of the leather industry is supplied as a by product of the meat industry. If you eat meat but do not buy leather products it is kind of sending a mixed signal.
 

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I'm so glad it's in the front because it's the only hope of charging without removing your trailer
Unless there are pull-through charging spots, which is really the only reasonable way to do it... unless the charging area is out-of-the-way, and the chargers are not busy.
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