What a difference a charger makes (Pasadena)

[Gator42]

Did you mean TANSTAAFL, or am I just showing my age?

TANSTAAFL

TINSTAAFL...fixed. Ty..

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[ajdelange]

Just because a person owns a rattle trap, panel gapped, poor handling mass produced piece of junk like a Model 3 or Model Y .... A person just sounds like an idiot when they comment on something they know nothing about and then get exposed.

Hmmm.

 

[ajdelange]

Yes, this is Tesla staying one foot ahead of anti-trust issues in a more regulated Europe.

I don't see this happening in the US until Elon Musk gets the attention he wants/craves.

No. It was the German government saying that if you want all the German people to subsidize your charging network you are going to have to make your charging network available to all the German people - not just those that drive Teslas. Sounds fair enough to me.

And it's actually the same in the US. There is lots of fed money being dangled and if Elon wants a piece of it for the SC net he's going to have to make the net available to all.

 

[DJG]

They take terrain elevation, speed limit and maybe even weather into account. Their projections are quite accurate.

How can that be the case when their projected range is based on the rated efficiency of the vehicle rather than actual consumption data? Did they recently change this?

 

[Denver_Paulie]

Hmmm.

You have a '19 Tesla Model X? That is cute.

I was on my 2nd round of Model S' and Model X's in 2019. So, yes, I do know something about Tesla driving characteristics and manufacturing quality. Hmmmmmm.

If you make it out to Denver this summer, let me know. I will drive us up to Aspen via Independence Pass to the Jerome for the best burger you have had, and you can experience what a non-Tesla EV feels like. Then you will understand.

This thread started as a positive story about a Rivian owner charging their new R1T in LA, and then some idiot had to piss all over it by bringing a complete factual lie. This is what bothers me about some Tesla owners on this site - they don't seem to realize that no one gives a $hit that they own a Tesla. Just like no one gives a shit that I have owned 4 Teslas, 2 Porsche Taycan's, and an Audi e-Tron.

That being said, I have seen both sides. Each has positives and negatives. Simple as that.

Cheers.

 

[DJG]

Sorry everyone. Here is the only pic I got. Will try to take more next time I need quick top off. Usually I will be charging at a lvl 2 at work.

BTW….I looked up station on PlugShare. I believe it is 175kwh but not positive.

best.

Adam

In the main screen charging section, you can toggle between mi/hr and kw for the charging rate.

 

[No.92]

Good morning everyone.

All I have to say is WOW, what a difference a charger makes. For those of you near Pasadena, you should stop by the Pasadena Charging station at 64 Glenarm, just off the 134.

Today was the first day taking my R1T to work in Pasadena. They have a few charging stations but their newest is at 64 Glenarm just where the 134 begins. I plugged in and WOW. I stayed at 340 miles of range per hour till I was almost at 70% SOC then only dropped down to about 250 miles of range per hour. Previous to that, I had only been on 50kwh chargers getting 110 miles of range per hour.

BEST OF ALL….. It is free.

Best

Adam

The next "big deal" is when you get your own home charger and never have to go to a charging station. Always be topped off ready to go after you wake up in the morning. (Assuming you don't already have one)

 

[abirozy]

In the main screen charging section, you can toggle between mi/hr and kw for the charging rate.

Gotcha. Thanks. Will look for it after work.

 

[abirozy]

The next "big deal" is when you get your own home charger and never have to go to a charging station. Always be topped off ready to go after you wake up in the morning. (Assuming you don't already have one)

????. Yes. That will be nice. Luckily I get to charge for free at work and am usually there for 10 hours. So I usually don’t need to worry. Usually being the key word. ?

 

[Denver_Paulie]

No. It was the German government saying that if you want all the German people to subsidize your charging network you are going to have to make your charging network available to all the German people - not just those that drive Teslas. Sounds fair enough to me.

And it's actually the same in the US. There is lots of fed money being dangled and if Elon wants a piece of it for the SC net he's going to have to make the net available to all.

That post shows Germany is not listed in the 8 European countries participating in the Tesla pilot currently. The German government must have more clout than I thought.

Elon does what Elon wants when there is money and attention in it for him. Honestly, Elon's ego is so bruised that he is not worshipped as a savior by the current administration that he will probably wait until after 2024 to open up the Tesla network. (this is not a political comment. it is a Elon Musk comment).

 

[ajdelange]

They take terrain elevation, speed limit and maybe even weather into account. Their projections are quite accurate.

How can that be the case when their projected range is based on the rated efficiency of the vehicle rather than actual consumption data? Did they recently change this?

The car knows the rated consumption and it knows what you consumed in the last 5, 15 or 30 miles (in Tesla you have this choice) and it knows how much energy is in the battery referenced to wherever the 0 mark actually is. From this it can calculate how far you can drive if the consumption for the remainder of the trip is the rated consumption or the average consumption. But it can't know what the future consumption will be unless it has more information. If, and only if, you tell it your next leg will be from here to there it can look up speed limits and elevation changes along that route and prepare a graph of remaining SoC as a function of miles along the specified route using the rated consumption. As you drive it blends you actual consumption is updating the graph as it goes. Pretty quickly the intercept with the right hand vertical (at destination) axis is a darn accurate estimate of the SoC at destination. This graph is such a powerful trip monitoring tool that I was absolutely certain Rivian would include it. They didn't.

 

[zefram47]

Well that just may in the cards since it happened in Europe this/last week.
From Electrek (It's still referred to as a pilot program):
Here’s the updated list of countries with Supercharger stations opened to non-Tesla owners:

• France
• Netherlands
• Norway
• UK
• Spain
• Sweden
• Belgium
• Austria

This in the end helps the consumer "win" IMO.

This has more to do with Teslas in Europe getting CCS2 connectors where in the USA they all have proprietary connectors. Kinda easy to open your charging network when it already has support for the connector every other manufacturer is already using. Assuming it ever even happens in the USA, Tesla will have to either add a new cable or some sort of adapter to allow non-Teslas to charge...not a small undertaking. As with everything Elon say, I will take it with a very large grain of salt until it actually happens. How many years after CyberTruck was announced and it's still vaporware?

https://electrek.co/2018/11/14/tesla-model-3-ccs-2-plug-europe-adapter-model-s-model-x/

 

[abirozy]

Ok. Here is a pic. Hopefully this gives a better look at the charger and relevant information.

 

[Gator42]

Ok. Here is a pic. Hopefully this gives a better look at the charger and relevant information.

…no fee for limited time. Also nice analog speedo…

 

[FrankieJ]

Yes, actually it can but it's going to cost you $50 a year.

I have tried the site several times and it had never cost me a dime. Am I missing something?

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