R1S Owners Guide Manual Available! ? (August 22, 2022)

[caliwagon]

Pretty sure the issue for width is the rear motor placement not third row seats. Removing them will not get enough space for a full size spare underneath.

And it might be easier just to go hitch mount:

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[electruck]

Then where do you place the flat full sided tire/rim? Hopefully it can partially fit in the area the spare goes in. Otherwise, you’ll hat to place a dirty tire in the hatch area! If that’s the case, need to also pack a protective tarp/bag as well.

Unfortunately it appears we're going to need a "dirty tire bag".

 

[ranieri]

LR4 was my favorite car I've ever owned. Such a great vehicle. That is a sweet set up right there.

 

[Neighbors]

Notice in the newer pic the load floor behind the 3rd row is flat and level with the cargo bars. In the slightly older pic, the load floor was at an angle providing a flat (but not level) surface from the folded second row seats all the way back. @skyote might be on to something with his suggestion of an adjustable load floor. But since the manual doesn't address, we'll just have to wait until one of us can get hands on. Either way, I still wish a 2-row 5-seat config were an option but I think I can make this work one way or another.

newer pic:

older pic:

@electruck, very helpful seeing those side-by-side. I didn't realize the only difference seems to be the slope of the load floor. The potential @skyote shared for it to be adjustable had me thinking of fold-out supports beneath the load floor, or even things that slide to cover holes that supporting legs would otherwise slip down into, but then I started looking closer at this ridge behind the third row:

I thought it was sticking out to kind of cover a gap of sorts, but now I'm thinking it's just a matter of lifting out that load floor, then putting it back in place but with the back edge resting on that ridge. It being tapered at either end would help to guide it back under the ridge in the cases you slip one of the corners in first (plus it'd help keep the edges of the ridge from being roughed up with repeated use).

I may be jumping to conclusions here, but my concerns have diminished by at least 72% (give or take ).

 

[crashmtb]

These are the same vehicle type etc, If you look it appears the rear cargo cover is propped up on an incline to match the seats. You can see if if you look at the rails on the sides of it. Similarly when RJ gets in in his twitter video.

The false floor over the cargo bin/spare tire space looks like it can sit either below the “lip on the rear edge of the folded seats, or on it, as in the picture showing the floor completely “flat”.

edit: @Neighbors neat me to it

 

[Neighbors]

The false floor over the cargo bin/spare tire space looks like it can sit either below the “lip on the rear edge of the folded seats, or on it, as in the picture showing the floor completely “flat”.

edit: @Neighbors neat me to it

@crashmtb, something told me you were hot on my tail with that nugget, so I was hurrying to get that posted before someone else (you) beat me to it!

It's okay, we may all be winners here if we're right.

 

[crashmtb]

@crashmtb, something told me you were hot on my tail with that nugget, so I was hurrying to get that posted before someone else (you) beat me to it!

It's okay, we may all be winners here if we're right.

You’d think they’d explain the seat folding/cargo floor in the manual

 

[SANZC02]

You’d think they’d explain the seat folding/cargo floor in the manual

Hopefully more details as they update it.

Personally just glad they finally released one for the R1S even if not complete.

 

[Tim-in-CA]

@crashmtb, something told me you were hot on my tail with that nugget, so I was hurrying to get that posted before someone else (you) beat me to it!

It's okay, we may all be winners here if we're right.

It’s amazing that it is taking CSI-level of investigation and speculation to guess about features and functionality of the R1S! It’s time for Rivian to pull back the curtain and provide CLEAR details to people spending $80-90K need. Not ridiculous Instagram Stories with shaky/blurry/dark low quality video which is worse than most UFO sightings!

 

[SANZC02]

It’s amazing that it is taking CSI-level of investigation and speculation to guess about features and functionality of the R1S! It’s time for Rivian to pull back the curtain and provide CLEAR details to people spending $80-90K need. Not ridiculous Instagram Stories with shaky/blurry/dark low quality video which is worse than most UFO sightings!

I don’t know, I’ve seen some pretty bad UFO sighting pictures…. ?

 

[OverZealous]

Hey, good news on the tailgate button!

I can't believe we couldn't get this information from the manual!

 

[shamoo]

If the depth works, I may try to remove my third row seat to accommodate a full size. I know for most people third row seat is more important but even my second row get used only a few times a year.

If rear passengers in your 2nd row are rarely used, curious why you'd even be interested in an R1S with 3 rows of seating.

Overlanding and storage, then toss the tire inside or on a hitch mount. Purely off-roading, then R1S probably isn't the best vehicle.

Just curious.

 

[crashmtb]

If rear passengers in your 2nd row are rarely used, curious why you'd even be interested in an R1S with 3 rows of seating.

Overlanding and storage, then toss the tire inside or on a hitch mount. Purely off-roading, then R1S probably isn't the best vehicle.

Just curious.

They’re only building it with 7 seats now.

 

[Max]

If rear passengers in your 2nd row are rarely used, curious why you'd even be interested in an R1S with 3 rows of seating.

Overlanding and storage, then toss the tire inside or on a hitch mount. Purely off-roading, then R1S probably isn't the best vehicle.

Just curious.

My config was a 5 seater R1S. 7 seater is a compromise I am forced to make. So the real choice is between the truck and SUV which is a tough one since I do use the bed in my current truck which I may have to keep as long as it runs after R1S or just get a trailer.

I wouldn’t want the spare for hard core off roading. My real life use would be gravel roads to get to a trail head but if I was doing serious off roading I still would choose R1S. R1T wheelbase is just too long. I want the spare because I have had a few blowouts and just don’t want to deal with that situation without a spare or with a donut far from home. So if I can’t fit a full size in R1S, I will just keep the small spare in it and get a full size for travel and do what you suggested.

Some of the reasons I chose R1S: I have found large enclosed space inside an SUV more useful more often for my lifestyle than bed of a truck. Although not as convenient a trailer could make it a truck when I need one. That is why I care about fitting a drywall (width wise) in R1S. I won’t have to mess with a trailer for occasional short Home Depot run. I don’t care if @skyote calls me a hill billy, you will see a plywood sticking out of my R1S.

The other reasons: the larger distance between crossbars on top of R1S is more secure for my sea kayak. Although I don’t foresee this happening very often, having the option to stretch in back of R1S if I have to charge to the max frequently on longer tow trips or even car camping (never done it before). R1S with fronk space makes me want to see how much I can stretch the use of the back. I think the length difference between the two can make some parking spots impossible for R1T where R1S could barely squeeze in and having R1T may frustrate me hunting for parking longer.

 

[skyote]

I don’t care if @skyote calls me a hill billy, you will see a plywood sticking out of my R1S.

Lol, I wasn't sure if that comment would make the edit.

On a serious note, the liftgate cannot latch if the tailgate is down, so I don't believe you'll be able to drive that way. Does make me wonder the overall length from tailgate to the back of the front seats with everything laid flat. ?

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