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I love that there was like 4 articles about this like it was a snub to Elon or something.
 

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Did you see the Reddit AMA with a software engineer from Rivian? Single most discussed feature was CarPlay. The guy basically ignored it. Only acknowledgment was confirming the hardware is there to support it (which we already knew).

I guess they figure if they put their fingers in their ears and say ā€œa-la-la-la our native system is betterā€ it’ll just go away.
 

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Did you see the Reddit AMA with a software engineer from Rivian? Single most discussed feature was CarPlay. The guy basically ignored it. Only acknowledgment was confirming the hardware is there to support it (which we already knew).

I guess they figure if they put their fingers in their ears and say ā€œa-la-la-la our native system is betterā€ it’ll just go away.
It bugs me that they ignore it. They can think their system is night and day better. They can even think CarPlay/Android Auto would ruin the experience but give the option. I am frightened by people who use zoom mode on their phones but I don't want the feature removed just because I don't find it useful.
 

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Crazy thought but what if Rivian is a candidat for the new fully integrated CarPlay? Also, Lucid just added CarPlay to their cars? Maybe there is hope.
 
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It bugs me that they ignore it. They can think their system is night and day better. They can even think CarPlay/Android Auto would ruin the experience but give the option. I am frightened by people who use zoom mode on their phones but I don't want the feature removed just because I don't find it useful.

Many of the traditional OEMs completely ignored Carplay. Toyota comes to mind as one of the latter big OEMs to integrate Carplay. They ignored consumer feedback up until they added it in and all of a sudden it was a great feature to offer their customers. Not saying that's the case with Rivian but it's not exactly like they're going to come out and extol the virtues of Carplay only to repeat the same lines about providing a valueable customer experience by owning all software.

I'm not sure its a matter of "better", there are plenty of folks who work for Rivian and I'm sure one of them has driven a vehicle with Carplay. Rivian's infotainment today isn't definitively better than the same system just with added Carplay functionality, nor will it be for an undetermined amount of time (if ever). They restate their business position whenever Carplay is brought up so I'd wager until such time as it's a better decision to include than to not they will continue to be silent. And right now with years worth of demand backlogged there's no pressure to change course on anything they've said so far.
 

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Toyota comes to mind as one of the latter big OEMs to integrate Carplay. They ignored consumer feedback up until they added it in and all of a sudden it was a great feature to offer their customers.
Given some of Rivian’s past communications with customers, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were to deny considering CarPlay until at least one day AFTER someone on the forum plugs an iPhone into their Rivian and is prompted to connect with CarPlay. :)

Hell, maybe not even until there is a resulting thread on the topic with owner pictures of CarPlay in action, screen shots of CS denials, and a special mode for some unreleased CP-related feature with step-by-step instructions, including the PIN to access it. :CWL:
 

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It's funny/exhausting that RJ giving Tim a ride to lunch at a conference is extrapolated into secret software integration discussions.
 

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Crazy thought but what if Rivian is a candidat for the new fully integrated CarPlay? Also, Lucid just added CarPlay to their cars? Maybe there is hope.
Um, yeah that would go over great with the 600 person deep software team at Rivian that believed they were part of something unique and different in joining them to create something of their own. RJ walks in, hey guys keep up the great work. Oh, by the way, we're going to implement a fully integrated Car Play feature so owners can completely ignore everything you're doing/creating. Cheers.

What a kick in the nuts/ovaries.

It sure would help the 5% labor downsizing they are reportedly planning. They would get that number just in software engineers quitting, saving them tons in severance packages.
 

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Um, yeah that would go over great with the 600 person deep software team at Rivian that believed they were part of something unique and different in joining them to create something of their own. RJ walks in, hey guys keep up the great work. Oh, by the way, we're going to implement a fully integrated Car Play feature so owners can completely ignore everything you're doing/creating. Cheers.

What a kick in the nuts/ovaries.

It sure would help the 5% labor downsizing they are reportedly planning. They would get that number just in software engineers quitting, saving them tons in severance packages.
I don’t think the integration of the new Apple CarPlay will mean that Rivian can do without their software team. Apple CarPlay is just an UI, everything in the back end still need to be programmed.
 

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Um, yeah that would go over great with the 600 person deep software team at Rivian that believed they were part of something unique and different in joining them to create something of their own. RJ walks in, hey guys keep up the great work. Oh, by the way, we're going to implement a fully integrated Car Play feature so owners can completely ignore everything you're doing/creating. Cheers.

What a kick in the nuts/ovaries.

It sure would help the 5% labor downsizing they are reportedly planning. They would get that number just in software engineers quitting, saving them tons in severance packages.
Rivian CEO confirms layoffs could be part of restructuring to stay ā€˜nimble’ | TechCrunch
 

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I don’t think the integration of the new Apple CarPlay will mean that Rivian can do without their software team. Apple CarPlay is just an UI, everything in the back end still need to be programmed.
That and the plethora of other features outside the scope of CarPlay, like pet mode, dash cam, drive modes, etc. If anything adding CarPlay would allow Rivian devs to focus on the elements of the software which are not covered by CarPlay rather than spinning their wheels trying to recreate Apple Music, Amazon Music, Waze, Google Maps, etc.
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