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I'm exactly the same boat as you and now have a Preorder on both. Realistically though because I live on Canada, my guess is Volvo wins the race to get my moneyReserved. Order #125xx.
2020 R1S order holder here with a “2024” estimated delivery date. I’m still furious at the ridiculous push-out for LA Silver R1S batches and the extreme lack of transparency or even remote empowerment with the Rivian “black box delivery lottery circus”. Saying this brings me no joy, but if Volvo does this right and beats my R1S delivery, they’ll very likely get my money.
EDIT: To add more color, I understand the two vehicles are somewhat different audiences, but clearly overlapping. I’m not a hardcore off-roader or need the assumedly larger hauling capacity of the R1S. Sure, I was excited to perhaps get more “adventurous” and try some new activities, but 98-100% of my time will be road miles. Volvo has a history of making luxury SUVs. I like the LiDAR and HUD options and the color options suit me ever so slightly better. Wife will likely enjoy the EX90 more, too, and having real dealerships isn’t going to hurt. I just won’t be taking it off-roading - something I’ve never done and probably won’t miss (but might a little).
I agree the price is going to be key. However, if the safety features turn out to be as good as advertised, I certainly won't mind paying a small premium for it. As far as off-road capability, I can't imagine myself doing any with the R1S (if I ever get one) other than driving on some unpaved dirt/gravel roads.95% of R1S owners use case is going to be driving around town and on highways. the stuff the R1S can do most of us will hardly ever use so from a utilitarian point of view the EX90 makes a lot more sense.
i think tech wise its a draw between the R1S and EX90. R1S obviously wins with the off-road capabilities with its suspension. the driver assist and autonomous features Volvo is going to win hands down. in my mind Rivian is in basically last place among all major car manufacturers right now. safety tech Volvo wins. if they can keep the price in the $80k-90k range, this is going to be a very compelling option.
Curious what tech on P3 is better than EX90?Not crazy about how this looks. Polestar 3 while not 3 row looks nicer and has better tech.
Frameless side windows, air particle filter with realtime visualization of contaminant levels, 250kw charging, 5G internet connectivity for infotainment. Thats just naming a few, maybe the EX90 will inherit a few more by the time they launch, but Polestar has been propped up as Volvos R&D branch so the vehicles will have features that Volvos wont have at least in their first generations.Curious what tech on P3 is better than EX90?
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Frunk admittedly looks small, although much of it is dedicated to a “tire repair kit/warning triangle”, so might be more useable if you take out the divider. “Bland styling/colors” is a matter of opinion. I suppose I’d call it classic Volvo: aiming for a more sophisticated, understated look - one my wife prefers over more aggressive truck styling that’s become popular in the US. As for “slow and unimpressive range” it doesn’t seem all that much different than the Rivian, which perhaps is also “unimpressive”.Tiny frunk (little over 1 cubic foot) with rear storage looking pretty small as well. Bland styling. Bland exterior colors. Portrait interior center display. Slow as far as EVs go. Unimpressive range. Easy pass.
I would consider my wife in the group that would be fine with EV9, Ioniq 7 or EX90. She prefers something that looks more "normal". She doesn't really have any requirements for a vehicle and adapts to whatever she has to drive. Her daily drivers over the last 3 years have been a Suburban 2500, Chevy Volt, VW Atlas, and now VW ID.4. She likes the size and seating position of the ID.4 the most but wants something with a 3rd row, thus our interest in any EV that is 3 rows (but I couldn't get her to just take the leap and go with the R1S). We know that the 250 mile range of the ID.4 works for us, so anything beyond that for a vehicle in this segment is acceptable. Of course more is nice, but I wouldn't pay more to get longer range.Folks who were waiting for the EV9 or Ioniq 7 would definitely jump on board with the EX90. Lots of folks who want a normal 3 row SUV that’s no different from an ICE SUV.
The Rivian R1S is more like Tesla… not a traditional car or SUV per se. I can imagine your middle aged soccer mom being turned off by the tech.
Put a deposit on the EX 90, number 12k something. Have a preorder on the R1S, January 2022 supposedly coming sometime in 2024. I've had a Volvo xc40 Recharge since May 2021, love it, so kind of inclined toward a second Volvo electric. One fairly big consideration is whether the EX 90 will be eligible for the federal tax credit. Another is how good it will be as our mountain car, where the road to our cabin is quite rough Forest Service road. Clearance is the same as our 4Runner which it would replace. A relative is already interested in buying my R1S if we don't want it. So a question: If I take delivery of the R1S, sell it pretty quickly to the relative because I will be getting the EX 90, can I still get the federal tax credit on the Rivian( I have the binding purchase contract).I would consider my wife in the group that would be fine with EV9, Ioniq 7 or EX90. She prefers something that looks more "normal". She doesn't really have any requirements for a vehicle and adapts to whatever she has to drive. Her daily drivers over the last 3 years have been a Suburban 2500, Chevy Volt, VW Atlas, and now VW ID.4. She likes the size and seating position of the ID.4 the most but wants something with a 3rd row, thus our interest in any EV that is 3 rows (but I couldn't get her to just take the leap and go with the R1S). We know that the 250 mile range of the ID.4 works for us, so anything beyond that for a vehicle in this segment is acceptable. Of course more is nice, but I wouldn't pay more to get longer range.
Given that I would drive it about half the time (basically whenever we take it on a longer trip instead of the R1T), I tend toward the higher autonomy tech and more luxury focused EX90. For us it will come down to availability and value, not necessarily cost, but that of course is a component.
Styling and colors are of course subjective but black, white, blue, tan and various shades of silver / gray are really bland choices IMHO.....“Bland styling/colors” is a matter of opinion..... As for “slow and unimpressive range” it doesn’t seem all that much different than the Rivian, which perhaps is also “unimpressive”.....
The ex9 has at least both of these.250kw charging, 5G internet connectivity for infotainment.