Update: Your Max Pack Preorder - R1T’s Max Pack only available w/ Dual-Motor. Unavailable w/ Quad-Motor starting 2023

[crashmtb]

Max pack quad motor was going to be the first bunch built. Now it’s…never.

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[evhelphub]

Why not happy? I'm actually a bit upset that I didn't keep the max pack. I would take a dual motor max pack with $4500 off.

Same. Very lame.

 

[MoreTrout]

Interesting that the tow rating is unchanged, even though the Max will have more weight onboard.

Actually not surprising at all. The 11k towing limit was a structural decision and I saw one of their engineers say clearly that the motors were plenty capable of towing much more - as the Motortrend guys proved with their 34k lb towing stunt. Quad or dual, with the right frame either motor setup would no doubt tow way more than 11k.

 

[av8or]

Looking like Rivian is going to eventually take away everything that made it so different and special. It probably makes the most sense for cost savings, but what else will change (Munroed) with the release of the dual motor. I fear the truck in its current “overbuilt“ form won’t be long term.

 

[NineElectrics]

Classic startup bait and switch: promise the world in order to build buzz and get funding, then take it all away again in order to actually make money.

Likely the new Max Pack is going to be smaller and cheaper than the old Max Pack, where Rivian uses new motors and/or other techniques to make up the loss in range. That will delay delivery, but since Rivian is likely battery supply constrained right now, they don’t care. They need those batteries to go into more vehicles with less kWh in each vehicle, not fewer vehicles with more kWh. The Max Pack is a liability.

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

I think I’m finally going to punch out of my ‘21 max pack order. I’m going to take it out on our planet and order a Ram TRX.

Solid plan. ? I ordered an ICE Silverado last weekend. Will probably cancel the Max Pack reservation whenever the Chevy shows up. I love seeing the occasional Rivian on the road around me. But at this point it's doubtful they'd build anything I want to see in my driveway. ?

 

[GHuff]

Rivian over-promised and couldn't deliver a Max Pack Quad Motor. And they took your money and led you on. That's terrible. But, this is probably the best way to handle this situation.

 

[ohseedee]

Rivian over-promised and couldn't deliver a Max Pack Quad Motor. And they took your money and led you on. That's terrible. But, this is probably the best way to handle this situation.

I'm not defending Rivian on this direction. But seems to me that it's not that they "couldn't" deliver max pack, but instead realized they didn't need to. They have more demand for large pack than they can deliver and by focusing on the smaller batteries they can build more faster.

 

[Mathme]

The general hints from Rivian were the Dual/Max first, with the Quad/Max at a later date. First and foremost Rivian is in the business to make money and with their limited engineering resources, they needed to focus on the options that'll please the most customers. As others have noted in this thread, the Dual + Max is likely good enough for 95-98% of those who want the Max.

As others have said this and was highlighted int he OP, you get a choice: 1) distance (Max); 2) performance (Quad); 3) wait for both; or 4) cancel your pre-order and get your $1,000 back and go elsewhere. Each option has a variable to timing and delivery.

Does it suck for those who've waited multi-years for a Quad + Max, yes however, Rivian has many things to balance as they move toward profitability and there's likely many things we can only speculate on here.

 

[Redmond Chad]

Rivian hasn't delivered what they promised; and I understand why that's disappointing to a lot of people. I'm sorry for you folks, but...

...for me, it's perfect. When I placed the order I wished there was a way to get a cheaper AWD truck with less performance. A 2-motor Max truck will be perfect for our use case (which involves towing, but not offroad). And a $4500 price decrease to boot - off the way-cheaper pre-March pricing, no less. Woot.

 

[Guy]

It would be great for us large pack order holders with pre March pricing if they offered $4000 off to go to the dual motor setup. I would be interested.

 

[jjswan33]

This makes me wonder if they will do a dual motor max pack R1S.

 

[crashmtb]

This makes me wonder if they will do a dual motor max pack R1S.

Not if The extra chassis length of R1T is needed for the additional battery capacity.

 

[Zorg]

I got a R1T and I am pretty sure that I would be just as happy with a dual motor. It's not like I use all the power available on a regular basis.

 

[tbolts10]

What a bunch of whiners. Rivian is a business. They have to make business decisions or else they fold and no one gets to enjoy their vehicles. A quad motor with 320 miles of range and a dual motor with 400+ miles of range covers 99% of what people want - people on this forum, admittedly, are probably the most edge-case of all customers - and that's why we're here. Have to be realistic though.

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