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Texas and Florida are #2 and 3 in population and Florida in particular is one of (if not the top) most popular vacation destinations in the country, especially for road trips. Those two states currently combine for 0 RAN stations with a whopping 0 in between them. It is about 1200 miles from Jacksonville to Houston and the 1 RAN station between them (sort of) is in Augusta, which would be a several hundred mile detour. By the time any RAN stations make it over here they won't be free or exclusive, so it won't even help them from a marketing perspective here.
Any guesses on the % of Rivians sold in CA vs TX and FL? While I would ultimately like to travel more easily across the nation, I'm guessing that there are more of us here in CA given the larger population and greater support for EVs. Rivian has done a good job of covering routes, but has a few areas they still need to hit (Come on Rivian, cover Borrego Springs even if it is with just a pair of chargers). I'm sure they will expand coverage as they phase out free charging.
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Any guesses on the % of Rivians sold in CA vs TX and FL? While I would ultimately like to travel more easily across the nation, I'm guessing that there are more of us here in CA given the larger population and greater support for EVs. Rivian has done a good job of covering routes, but has a few areas they still need to hit (Come on Rivian, cover Borrego Springs even if it is with just a pair of chargers). I'm sure they will expand coverage as they phase out free charging.
I don't know, but I see Rivians, Teslas and lots of other EVs everywhere in Central Texas. Dallas and Fort Worth TX (city limits) combine for zero CCS chargers capable of 150kW+. Austin has 0 (one EA station in a suburb). San Antonio has 1.

It's ridiculous.

There are RAN stations planned for Dallas, Austin, Waco, San Antonio and Houston. Can't come soon enough! :)
 
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Any guesses on the % of Rivians sold in CA vs TX and FL? While I would ultimately like to travel more easily across the nation, I'm guessing that there are more of us here in CA given the larger population and greater support for EVs. Rivian has done a good job of covering routes, but has a few areas they still need to hit (Come on Rivian, cover Borrego Springs even if it is with just a pair of chargers). I'm sure they will expand coverage as they phase out free charging.
I don't think numbers are available other than user polls, but I have heard Texas is #2 in sales and I'd bet Florida is in the 5-6 range. My guess is CA, TX, WA, CO, FL are top 5. NY could be 4 or 5 though.
 

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Texas and Florida are #2 and 3 in population and Florida in particular is one of (if not the top) most popular vacation destinations in the country, especially for road trips. Those two states currently combine for 0 RAN stations with a whopping 0 in between them. It is about 1200 miles from Jacksonville to Houston and the 1 RAN station between them (sort of) is in Augusta, which would be a several hundred mile detour. By the time any RAN stations make it over here they won't be free or exclusive, so it won't even help them from a marketing perspective here.
I'd disagree it's tone deaf. Is it annoying if you don't have access? Yes. I wish there were RAN chargers along routes in WA I use (I've gone to the coast by Aberdeen like.... twice in 12 years). That being said, they're celebrating that it's possible where they have built chargers out in locations where they have sales.

Any guesses on the % of Rivians sold in CA vs TX and FL? While I would ultimately like to travel more easily across the nation, I'm guessing that there are more of us here in CA given the larger population and greater support for EVs. Rivian has done a good job of covering routes, but has a few areas they still need to hit (Come on Rivian, cover Borrego Springs even if it is with just a pair of chargers). I'm sure they will expand coverage as they phase out free charging.
I don't think numbers are available other than user polls, but I have heard Texas is #2 in sales and I'd bet Florida is in the 5-6 range. My guess is CA, TX, WA, CO, FL are top 5. NY could be 4 or 5 though.
CA likely has the highest deliveries overall (obviously). The Bellevue service center has been servicing something like 20% of all Rivian sales on it's own from a single service center in WA, and the Emerald City Rivian Club flip flops with the most members with the Bay Area club. There's your top two States and I'd guess more than 50% of their deliveries. Colorado is probably number three, and has a large density. Oregon has a decent number of deliveries as well. Make your best guess with TX, CO, and FL. Even if Texas has the fourth most deliveries that's still likely a relatively low density. Building out from CA, which is Rivian's headquarters, makes sense even though it has annoyed me. It gives them a cohesive network to build out from, and a lot of their stations are clearly targeted to accessing outdoor adventures, not interstate travel. The chargers on I-5 in Oregon were the last to go in.

Rather than getting angry with Rivian over it, ask why EA hasn't built out that specific route? or EVGO? Why hasn't anyone bought a station with Chargepoint and put one in?

That's ignoring the political/moral stances that Texas has, which opposes Rivian's stated goals and stances. I doubt that really makes Rivian want to focus much of investment in Texas.
 

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I'd disagree it's tone deaf. Is it annoying if you don't have access? Yes. I wish there were RAN chargers along routes in WA I use (I've gone to the coast by Aberdeen like.... twice in 12 years). That being said, they're celebrating that it's possible where they have built chargers out in locations where they have sales.



CA likely has the highest deliveries overall (obviously). The Bellevue service center has been servicing something like 20% of all Rivian sales on it's own from a single service center in WA, and the Emerald City Rivian Club flip flops with the most members with the Bay Area club. There's your top two States and I'd guess more than 50% of their deliveries. Colorado is probably number three, and has a large density. Oregon has a decent number of deliveries as well. Make your best guess with TX, CO, and FL. Even if Texas has the fourth most deliveries that's still likely a relatively low density. Building out from CA, which is Rivian's headquarters, makes sense even though it has annoyed me. It gives them a cohesive network to build out from, and a lot of their stations are clearly targeted to accessing outdoor adventures, not interstate travel. The chargers on I-5 in Oregon were the last to go in.

Rather than getting angry with Rivian over it, ask why EA hasn't built out that specific route? or EVGO? Why hasn't anyone bought a station with Chargepoint and put one in?

That's ignoring the political/moral stances that Texas has, which opposes Rivian's stated goals and stances. I doubt that really makes Rivian want to focus much of investment in Texas.
Texas, as does Florida, allows SCs to be built and several have been built so Rivian is building infrastructure in those states. As for sales do you really think CA, WA and maybe CO account for half of all R1 sales? I am amazed if Bellevue did 20% of sales when Brooklyn likely has the highest workload covering CT, Eastern PA, NJ and NYC. Large populations with high median incomes.
 

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Texas, as does Florida, allows SCs to be built and several have been built so Rivian is building infrastructure in those states. As for sales do you really think CA, WA and maybe CO account for half of all R1 sales? I am amazed if Bellevue did 20% of sales when Brooklyn likely has the highest workload covering CT, Eastern PA, NJ and NYC. Large populations with high median incomes.
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that Rivian isn't building SC in Texas or Florida, they obviously want to service customers there but it's not like Texas is particularly eager to replace ICE vehicles, and they don't allow direct to consumer sales.

Based on some discussions with Rivian employees a few folks have had, my understanding is absolutely that Bellevue has been servicing that many. It had/has been covering some of the overages for Portland since that SC hasn't been able to do alignments until recently. Even with that, if 20% is coming from that one service center and that accounts for a minority of the Oregon sales, and let's say another 20% from the northern CA centers, there's another four service centers in CA alone. So I have to imagine CA easily has 30% of the deliveries to date.

It's hard to describe, but there are just a shit load of Rivian's in the Puget Sound area. A friend of mine describes it as the new Subaru because there are so many in his neighborhood. My wife sees several on her commute every single day, and they generally aren't the same ones.

Up until recently the wait to get service in Bellevue has been several (3 or 4+) months as well.
 

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Do you have an address for it? It's not on Rivian.com's map and I don't see an address in the thread about it.
Let me get it from my guide
 

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I'd disagree it's tone deaf. Is it annoying if you don't have access? Yes. I wish there were RAN chargers along routes in WA I use (I've gone to the coast by Aberdeen like.... twice in 12 years). That being said, they're celebrating that it's possible where they have built chargers out in locations where they have sales.



CA likely has the highest deliveries overall (obviously). The Bellevue service center has been servicing something like 20% of all Rivian sales on it's own from a single service center in WA, and the Emerald City Rivian Club flip flops with the most members with the Bay Area club. There's your top two States and I'd guess more than 50% of their deliveries. Colorado is probably number three, and has a large density. Oregon has a decent number of deliveries as well. Make your best guess with TX, CO, and FL. Even if Texas has the fourth most deliveries that's still likely a relatively low density. Building out from CA, which is Rivian's headquarters, makes sense even though it has annoyed me. It gives them a cohesive network to build out from, and a lot of their stations are clearly targeted to accessing outdoor adventures, not interstate travel. The chargers on I-5 in Oregon were the last to go in.

Rather than getting angry with Rivian over it, ask why EA hasn't built out that specific route? or EVGO? Why hasn't anyone bought a station with Chargepoint and put one in?

That's ignoring the political/moral stances that Texas has, which opposes Rivian's stated goals and stances. I doubt that really makes Rivian want to focus much of investment in Texas.
It's pointless to try and argue about volume without any sort of reliable facts (this isn't Twitter after all) so I'll agree to disagree on that front.

I'm not particularly mad at Rivian, and I've given them a ton of leeway when it comes to some of their shortcomings that are driven by hostile state legislatures. My point is just to highlight the dichotomy of getting an email from Rivian celebrating how great the Rivian is for road trips when I literally can't use my Rivian on my chosen road trip route due to the exact thing that they are celebrating being unavailable to me.
 

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Such backwards thinking. Goes along with cutting mental health by 211 million
Abbott is too busy making sure everyone has a gun in their hand to worry about our charging infrastructure.?
 

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I don't know, but I see Rivians, Teslas and lots of other EVs everywhere in Central Texas. Dallas and Fort Worth TX (city limits) combine for zero CCS chargers capable of 150kW+. Austin has 0 (one EA station in a suburb). San Antonio has 1.

It's ridiculous.

There are RAN stations planned for Dallas, Austin, Waco, San Antonio and Houston. Can't come soon enough! :)
EA has two more coming soon but they are too close to the SA one in in my mind.

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Would love for one to be put into south Austin area. I think its EA or Evgo who have a permit for a charging station in the Rim area of SA as well.

EVgo with a near ready charger near the domain in Austin (think its waiting on the local utility company to activate service but otherwise built out with hardware)
 

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EA has two more coming soon but they are too close to the SA one in in my mind.

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Yeah, I agree. Surely if they put one between I-35 and hwy 75 in Dallas it would be fully utilized.
 

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Yeah, I agree. Surely if they put one between I-35 and hwy 75 in Dallas it would be fully utilized.
This is new though…4 Freewire units north of Waco. These actually have 150 kw battery packs in them and a normal grid hookup but will do 100-125kw speeds. But again….redundancy too close to EA but I guess that’s what’s needed now.

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