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So this is why there was so much bullish option flows into RIVN :)
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I have said RAN was a waste of money from the beginning. Makes no sense to be in power distribution business...
I was in Altlanta with a Hertz Telsa rental. I went to two Supechargers while I was there. At 5 PM, both were 80% occupied (9 or 10 out of 12 stations). How's that gonna go in 2024 when 4 million new users are added?
 

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Finally! This was inevitable. Can’t wait to see how this plays out.
 

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who needs RAN when you can have access to all the tesla supercharger? They might as well stop making RAN
Still need more chargers...Supercharger network can not accommodate everyone.
 

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Perhaps. But this quick adoption by so many companies looks like a massive overload of the Telsa Supercharger vehicle capacity to me when 2024 comes. Telsa owners should be getting pissed right now.
Possibly one benefit to this change is it'll give Rivian a greater incentive to focus on RAN in areas that are underserved for their customers instead of just enabling travel between popular areas.
 

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And how much will the Adapter be for those of us Rivian Early Adapters? I know there are after market converters out there, and will these be ones that Rivian recommends or will they require a Rivian to Tesla adapter?
 

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I have said RAN was a waste of money from the beginning. Makes no sense to be in power distribution business...
I wouldn't consider it a waste of money. If Rivian can focus the RAN buildout in more remote places, that'll really help enjoy this vehicle even more and unlock more adventures. I frequently use my R1T for what it was built for and I'm usually stuck with slow DCFC (62kw) or L2 while out there
 

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Perhaps. But this quick adoption by so many companies looks like a massive overload of the Telsa Supercharger vehicle capacity to me when 2024 comes. Telsa owners should be getting pissed right now.
You will see tesla owners including myself going to CCS charging network :)
 

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And how much will the Adapter be for those of us Rivian Early Adapters? I know there are after market converters out there, and will these be ones that Rivian recommends or will they require a Rivian to Tesla adapter?
It's a "Standard" (well, almost). So any adapter that meets the Tesla non-standard standard will work.

In other words, this is just one of the many reasons it needs to be a true standard, not a Telsa declared standard.
 

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Still need more chargers...Supercharger network can not accommodate everyone.
Of course it doesn't hurt, but at the rate they are building the RAN network,might as well let tesla building more super chargers since it is 10x as fast
 

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As quick as this adoption is happening without it already being a recognized standard first is pretty worrying.

Even if I'm forced into the change by a standards body, I'll still likely avoid using the Tesla stations unless I have to. Competition is good and Tesla is doing what any good corporation would do by attempting to position themselves as the only game in town.
Isn't it also possible that with Ford, GM, now Rivian and likely Stallantis very shortly, moving to adopt NACS that Tesla will be feeling some pressure to actually move their system more quickly to being a true standard and not one in name only?
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Isn't it also possible that with Ford, GM, now Rivian and likely Stallantis very shortly, moving to adopt NACS that Tesla will be feel some pressure to actually move their system more quickly to being a true standard and not one in name only?
Entirely depends on what their closed door agreements are. They could be predicated on that. If I were RJ, it certainly would be one of my requirements.
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