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My wife was constantly complaing about not being able to see what button she needed to press; I also found it quite annoying at times that i had to find a light source to make sure i was hitting the right button.

We purchased: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00275ZU24?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

Voila, game-changer.
You are not supposed to look at the buttons but feel the slight differences of each of the icons with your finger and memorize what they stand for. Problem solved.
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You are not supposed to look at the buttons but feel the slight differences of each of the icons with your finger and memorize what they stand for. Problem solved.
Not really possible with Rivian's key, but that is the huge advantage to key fobs that are shaped like toy cars.

Squeeze of the front of the toy car and the front trunk opens, squeeze on the rear of the toy car and the rear trunk opens is so much easier to remember then arbitrary top left does this, bottom right does that fobs.
 

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thats cool and i get that its hard to see but how hard is it to remember the location of the buttons? it took me a week of use to memorize it and i can open it while keeping it in my pocket. just like i have with all my other key fobs from other manufacturers.

do you guys actually look at the buttons when you need to press?
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You are not supposed to look at the buttons but feel the slight differences of each of the icons with your finger and memorize what they stand for. Problem solved.
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Just so we're clear... It's ok to be a proponent of "Learn where the buttons are by feel" and still understand that coloring in the icons ALSO has benefits.

Some of us hand the "keys" to other people who have no fucking clue what the buttons do and if it's anything but bright sunlight reading black on black embossing can be a serious pain in the ass for anyone.

So yes, poke as much fun (or be seriously giving people shit - all fine by me) about memorizing by touch/feel, but don't use that as an excuse for a horrible design decision that can be fixed with about $0.05 worth of ink/paint per fob at scale. Both things can happen and both can be good. Some of us occasionally let the fob out of our own hands and pockets to other people and I've watched those people struggle to tell lock from unlock and frunk from rear hatch - and it only takes one time of opening the rear hatch into a closed garage door to make the benefits of having actually visible and discernable iconography on them readily apparent.
 

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Yeah, if you use the fob all the time then you might memorize it, but I primarily use my phone and just take the fob when I know I might have someone else drive, stay in the car, etc. They're not at all familiar with it, and I wind up not memorizing it. So I got my daughter to paint it with Sharpie fine point oil paint markers which has been a big help.
 

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I don't like the fob at all. Too big and the clip makes it even larger and is useless as far as I am concerned, can't see icons, not enough tactile definition, which is the front and which is the back. Of all the fobs I own it is the worst. OK so I mostly use my phone but now here I am standing around waiting for the truck to recognize me. All kind of a minor thing and all in all I am happy with the truck. My biggest grip of all tho is that the back seats don't fold up like my F150 oh and no carplay.
 

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Well done. Looks good and finally readable. The pen makes this possible for people that may not be good with a tiny brush. I rarely use the fob so this will improve my situation.

Good fob designs use varying shapes, textures, materials and colors to make the button side, fob orientation, and button function instantly identifiable, even without looking. Rivian's fob is objectively bad. Rivian's same texture/color/material on both sides and tiny semetrical button pad is just poor industrial design. I don't think they care because I assume their goal is to get you to use PAAK and cards. The fob is just a cool looking carabiner conversation piece.
 

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Love the truck, but some items are plainly annoying and this is one of them. With the "only lock at home" feature (which I totally appreciate), the fob is back in play. Rivian should have just copied evolved designs instead "Ri-invant". A BMW fob has a learning curve of one minute instead of a week or two. You can't trust the carabiner and a symmetric design makes it very difficult to feel your way around and makes the whole thing unnecessarily annoying - I can use my BMW key wearing mittens. A better design may sell in the Rivian store, even a raised lock button would be a huge improvement.
 

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My wife was constantly complaing about not being able to see what button she needed to press; I also found it quite annoying at times that i had to find a light source to make sure i was hitting the right button.

We purchased: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00275ZU24?ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details&th=1

Voila, game-changer.

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If I still had my R1T, I would definitely get one. Hate using the fob, but PAAK is so horrible I had no choice. This would have been very helpful though!
 

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You are not supposed to look at the buttons but feel the slight differences of each of the icons with your finger and memorize what they stand for. Problem solved.
It's called "human factors" (or ergonomics) - design the technology to adapt to humans (we, as humans, use sight overwhelmingly), not to make humans adapt to it. Sure some people will memorize the feel or position. But most won't - they'll just be frustrated by the poor implementation.
 

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