Cybertruck design engineer spilling secrets?

[DuoRivians]

Assuming we can take their word for it, is this something that’s common with early car builds? Even with Rivians?

https://www.reddit.com/r/cybertruck/s/Gxk0b9zJhV

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[SparkyR1t]

Sounds like comments from a disgruntled employee

 

[COdogman]

Hard to say if it’s real or not. He said it has an “engine”

 

[Donald Stanfield]

You could say much of the same thing to most of us in here about the Rivian. Mine is a '22 and has been pretty solid this entire time I've owned it. So much so that if they come out with the rumored 1200hp one that will probably be my next truck.

 

[iansriv]

Sounds like comments from a disgruntled employee

That or a Rivian employee

 

[BigSkies]

Sounds like comments from a disgruntled employee

If corporate america has taught me anything, there are a lot more disgruntled employees than gruntled employees. Usually for good reason.

 

[usofrob]

Knowing what we do about Tesla, this seems pretty reasonable. I suspect GM (and other legacy OEMs) would require more completed tests before shipping any products. I'd bet Rivian would do this a little bit, but probably not as much as Tesla. They're all about 'fix it in post'.

 

[Aardvark]

Color me skeptical. The numerous grammatical errors, and referring to the motors as "engines," makes this look like it was written by a chatbot.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Color me skeptical. The numerous grammatical errors, and referring to the motors as "engines," makes this look like it was written by a chatbot.

Some people still call electric motors engines. I don't know why they do it.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Hard to say if it’s real or not. He said it has an “engine”

Maybe the context and meaning is different, like in terms of software engine.

To be fair, we know Rivian has issues and continue to experience issues… which lead to iterative product and manufacturing changes.

I think what we see in both cases is the nature of business, when the pressure to get to (and generate revenue) outweighs pressure to get it right, and “good enough” is deemed enough.

If you have ever used Microsoft products, you are familiar with this MO; years of countless patches after initial launch. And as cars become more and more software dependent… that operating mentality dominates and permeate beyond software; it turns into company culture.

 

[defcon888]

Color me skeptical. The numerous grammatical errors, and referring to the motors as "engines," makes this look like it was written by a chatbot.

well, he sounds young, and coming from an old guy like me, today's youth barely know how to walk and talk at the same time (unless there is a screen in their face), let alone know grammar.

Coming from the medical device industry, I know we have to design and redesign before it goes to market. We are working on things now that won't hit the market for 5 years because of the testing that goes into it. I know vehicles are different, but if they cut corners to get to market, the same on Tesla.

If I was an early adopter I would have given Elon and Co. a break if they would have come out and said "Look people, I overpromised, we are going to have to do some redesign".

I also think with the Lightening and Rivian hitting the market, Tesla was forced to to produce before they were ready for showtime.

 

[CrazyOne]

Some people still call electric motors engines. I don't know why they do it.

If a warp engine can be an engine, I am ok calling a motor an engine ?. We should call these electron engines ?

 

[DuoRivians]

Fwiw: post has been deleted now on Reddit

 

[KeithPleas]

I don't know whether the post was authentic, but the gyst of it aligns with this piece:

"If this sounds like the kind of arrangement that would incentivize a company to engage in potentially dangerous cost-cutting, you’re right. Musk has a mania for “deleting” anything he sees as nonessential. SpaceX wins so many government contracts because it’s the low-cost no-frills airline of space travel. They’ll do it for cheap. They’ll send up a tin can with most of its safety features missing. Which is why their rockets keep blowing up.​

​

Tesla is the same. If you’ve ever been inside one of the cars, you’ll know that while they’re not cheap to buy, they’re very cheaply made. The materials are poor quality, parts come loose, panels don’t fit together, wheels go “whompy” and collapse. What gives the Tesla its luxury image mostly amounts to a series of gimmicks: flush door handles, big screens in the middle of the dashboard and something called “fart mode.” "​

https://thepointmag.com/criticism/very-ordinary-men/

 

[Aardvark]

well, he sounds young, and coming from an old guy like me, today's youth barely know how to walk and talk at the same time (unless there is a screen in their face), let alone know grammar.

Coming from the medical device industry, I know we have to design and redesign before it goes to market. We are working on things now that won't hit the market for 5 years because of the testing that goes into it. I know vehicles are different, but if they cut corners to get to market, the same on Tesla.

If I was an early adopter I would have given Elon and Co. a break if they would have come out and said "Look people, I overpromised, we are going to have to do some redesign".

I also think with the Lightening and Rivian hitting the market, Tesla was forced to to produce before they were ready for showtime.

I do give Tesla the benefit of the doubt. The stainless steel skin and mass producing 4680 cells were, and are, cutting edge technologies. I believe both hit unanticipated engineering hurdles since the day of the CT unveiling. But I still give Tesla kudos for pushing the envelope.

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