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Well, burning $1.5+B in cash a quarter won't work. I've worked with many distressed businesses, including high-growth startups, that begin to run into cash crunches - sometimes they miss estimates of demand at a price point, sometimes it's a lack of attention to detail on the cost side, other times it's trying to invest in anything, everything, all at once (self-driving, subscription services, suspension turning, adding configs, new facilities/factories, staff that aren't really needed for 12-24 months, securing best marginal price on parts which often means larger order volumes and higher working inventory levels). You name it, I've seen it. The one that just about every company struggles with is forecasting working capital needs. If Rivian is sitting on excess finished goods inventory, as they are, that inventory has carrying costs and tends to depreciate the longer it sits on lots. Meanwhile, that's cash that is not available to support other business needs. Some of this is expected, they can/should build up ~15-30 days of inventory as shipping via rail takes time and they want some cushion to keep generating revenue while the factories are down for retooling/refitting. But here we are, and the picture isn't the worst, but it's difficult to support as a prospective vehicle buyer and investor.

Feel free to pick it apart, I don't work at Rivian nor do I know anyone who does. It's just a layman's plan from the outside, but one that will probably work.
  1. Cut deeper/faster: 10%? Should start at 20-25% and monitor daily. 10% is a "we're not serious". Most companies will start at 15% and then add another 10-15% in six months. Every day these decisions is delayed is cash you can never get back. And every dollar saved increases probability of success, even if it takes a little longer to get there.
  2. Innovate around the current offering: I'll give them credit here, dual-motor coming out last Fall was a great start as are the new Standard and Standard+ packs ...BUT.... the vehicles are effectively identical outside of motors and batteries. Sure, this worked for Tesla but it won't work for everyone coming after, that was a poor assumption. See what's coming to market in the R1 price band and you'll find different interior materials, things like HUD, different trim options, etc. My low-cost hack? Come out with a true "mall crawler+" edition that has five seats (third row extra $5K), 20" all seasons, steel wheels and maybe a tough-wearing fabric interior a la Polestar. Drop the gimmicky camp speaker and maybe even remove the air compressor. I'd also offer new paint flat paint colors, no metallics, to make it clearer to passers-by that this is the mall-crawler edition. Starting at $59,900, available today.
  3. Build the R2 in tents in Normal in 2025: A la Tesla at Fremont, do NOT spend the capex now on the R2 facility. Basically slow roll the new factory and in the interim launch a R2 pilot production line in a sprung structure in spring 2025. Is that a rush job? Yes. May have to re-use the R1 front motor as the R2 rear motor in a single-motor config, go with a coil suspension and keep the Rivian looks. it's the Bronco Sport of the Rivian lineup. Re-using as many R1 parts as they can will hurt margins BUT it will accelerate time to launch - which is critical. Maybe the first vehicles are $60K models only with all the goodies and they build the cheaper configs once the second (real) plant is running. Putting a sprung structure in Normal, and re-using R1 parts, will make it easier for suppliers and much easier for Rivian's (now smaller) operations and logistics team to manage inflow/outlfow and quality at the single location. BTW, there is another hack here, and I shudder to mention it, but they can buy Ultium sleds from GM as are Honda/Acura and slap an R2 body on time simplifying the engineering dramatically.
  4. Immediate salary/bonus freeze - probably through the R2 production launch, it's sink or swim. Everyone remaining gets additional option grants setting up a true win-win.
  5. On the engineering side, find 2-4 things that Rivian can be exceptional at which will cause customers to pay attention. At 50-60k annual units Rivian is moving as many R1's as Tesla sells S/X - that's a monumental achievement, but it's insufficient for survival. They won't beat Tesla at FSD or GM's Supercruise (not yet, anyway) so for now Driver+ remains as adaptive cruise control. Full stop. I'd also take a hard look at the Apple Carplay contract and API's, this alone can get Rivian a demand bump in 2024. So Rivian is the outdoorsy company, check. Take a swat team of engineers, 4-6, and optimize the heck out of dual-motor offroad capabilities. Virtual lockers, crawl control, you name it. Make it as good or better than what anyone else has on the market. And then market the heck out of it. Rebelle Rally was a start, but most people have never heard of it. How about beating "Trail Rated" Jeeps on their own trails? And do it with solar and external battery packs - completely green.
That's it. Most organizations, no matter the size, have a hard time pulling on more than 3-5 strings if they have to go "all in". Sure, have departmental goals, etc. And delayer - no more than five layers from RJ to someone on the line or a service tech. Is this hard? Oh yeah, but less management helps the rest happen faster. Pick apart my plan or methods, I'd love to see Rivian succeed. But as a first-time CEO RJ may be an incredible engineer but is struggling with running a business. Claire is helpful, but he needs more. Not sure the recent hires have enough turnaround experience, and make no mistake this is a turnaround - now or by year-end. Best to take the bitter pill now, swallow hard, and dig in.
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Another thing they really need to look into, re-diversify the employees they currently have, and implement a hiring freeze. They have 10000 open jobs posts sitting on their website. What good is laying off 10% of the staff, if they just rehire others in other areas.

And focus on getting the service centers staffed correctly. Waiting 3-6 months in some cases for repairs is insanity.
 

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Also would help to give preorder pricing people a firm deadline to order before that pricing goes away. Won't be popular (and I'm one of those people) but it would clear those cheaper vehicles off the books once and for all.
 
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Also would help to give preorder pricing people a firm deadline to order before that pricing goes away. Won't be popular (and I'm one of those people) but it would clear those cheaper vehicles off the books once and for all.
Great idea, and I suspect this is unofficially beginning. I have a post-March order and a call with a Rivian sales rep scheduled for next week (I'm waiting on service center locations to open up as well as the Supercharger access) and I received a call from another Rivian rep earlier this week to inquire about my order. Not sure how/why he didn't know about the other meeting I've already got on calendar but my guess is Rivian is going to call everyone with an outstanding pre-order to see when those orders will be placed. After a gentle nudge, the next step will be picking an expiration date (I'd offer end of March 2024 - that's two years from the last price-locked pre-orders) that should secure some volume through Q2.

Then it's just a flow businesses, orders in, vehicles out and you manage demand in real-time a la Tesla. Sound easy, but super-hard if pricing is the only lever (HINT: do NOT follow Tesla's example and use price as the only demand lever, build the brand).
 

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Why? None of us have stepped into the company; but we do know how to run it. It is like buying a can of milk and saying I can run a dairy farm. ? Can we have some thoughtful posts to really help people who have gotten R1S or R1T
Some of us have spent time consulting with, and/or working inside of, Fortune 500 businesses undergoing turnarounds. Do enough turnarounds and you find some common themes. It's not a formulaic plan, you match the actions to the symptoms.

My plan may or may not be correct, I have no inside knowledge to your point. But from what I can see on the outside, and again with the benefit of 30 years of doing these things and generally needing to triage in the first 30-45 days (that's all you get) and put corrective actions in place, I have some informed perspectives that I thought I'd share. You're welcome to indulge in the thread or not, no worries either way.

Enjoy your R1 in good health, they are incredible machines regardless of what happens with the business.
 
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Another thing they really need to look into, re-diversify the employees they currently have, and implement a hiring freeze. They have 10000 open jobs posts sitting on their website. What good is laying off 10% of the staff, if they just rehire others in other areas.

And focus on getting the service centers staffed correctly. Waiting 3-6 months in some cases for repairs is insanity.
Your first and second paragraphs directly contradict each other. You want them to do a hiring freeze and focus on getting service centers staffed?
 

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I am a pre-price hike. I would have given up the third row, speaker, and quad motors to maintain my price. But whatever..got a great car at 75k.
 

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On #5: they've already established their off-road bonafides with the R1T/S with the quad motor variant. Going by your logic vis-a-vis cost cutting, how does it make sense to advocate for creation of a cheaper, feature-reduced mall crawler while simultaneously advocating that they redirect money/resources toward optimizing the R1 line for a niche market (off-roading) that they are currently performant and well established in? They already have a strong brand identity; doing what you're advocating for would not only be a poor allocation of resources, but it would also cheapen their line of halo-vehicles and lessen the distinction between the premium R1 line and mass-market R2.

Regarding R2 production, I agree that they should start production sooner and scale faster, which I fully expect them to do. I'd bet that the volume of R2 reservations will sufficiently arm them for the next round of capital raising, which is inevitable, and that they might even announce an acceleration of their R2 manufacturing plans at that time. I wouldn't be surprised if they use some of their currently-vacant Normal Plant space to start limited manufacturing of R2 by EOY 2025 and slow further scaling of R1 production (but not decrease overall annual production volume forecasts). Doing so will allow them to subtly redirect capital/resources from R1 to R2, broadcast that they're bringing R2 to market faster, and actually do so at a limited scale while working out manufacturing kinks. Done correctly, which I believe they are well equipped to do, every one of these things will boost investor confidence dramatically and resolve many of the survivability concerns that currently exist.

They are not in the kind of dire straits that require them to resort to the things that you are advocating for. Provided that they unveil an R2 that successfully appeals to the largest segment of the automotive market (crossovers/mid-sized SUVs), which they are expected to do, they're going to be able to chart a reasonable path to profitability for investors and get the funding they need. The scope and success of their next capital raise won't determine if they survive; quite the opposite, it will determine their timeline for scaling and reaching profitability.
 
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Also would help to give preorder pricing people a firm deadline to order before that pricing goes away. Won't be popular (and I'm one of those people) but it would clear those cheaper vehicles off the books once and for all.
...a little off topic, but how many pre-price reservations do you think remain unfulfilled today? What's keeping these people from completing their order?
 

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...a little off topic, but how many pre-price reservations do you think remain unfulfilled today? What's keeping these people from completing their order?
Total amount, unknown, can't be very high but unfulfilled because there is no nearby service center for delivery in most cases.
 

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Can someone just leak a photo of the R2 interior so we can move on from the doom and gloom?
 

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...a little off topic, but how many pre-price reservations do you think remain unfulfilled today? What's keeping these people from completing their order?
I have a pre-price hike reservation. I've been waiting for the powered tonneau cover to return to the configurator, which I believe is supposed to happen in the coming months. Aside from that, I was previously waiting for the Max Pack to start deliveries; now that it is, I've now decided to wait a bit longer to see if the disappointing range is increased via software update from optimizations. There's a precedent for doing so and I'm holding out hope that it will happen. Whether it does or doesn't will determine whether I switch my original Max Pack reservation to a Large Pack.
 

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Rivian needs to build vans with AWD and huge batteries so I can justify Rivian #3
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