New R2 photo (fifth teaser)

[DRJ564]

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[1T2022]

very clean looking. Like it.

 

[NY_Rob]

Random thoughts on ways to cut costs:
Smaller overall size
Cloth seats, power adjust for driver seat only
Steel roof (I don't believe the glass roof is cheaper than steel as I've seen posted here)
Coil springs vs. Air suspension
Smaller battery- 75kWh max possibly
Smaller wheels/tires 19" perhaps
No Camp Speaker, Flashlight, Compressor
Carpet floor mats
Single display (think Model 3/Y)
In house motors
Single or Dual motor only
In house audio
In house brake calipers
No wood dash trim
Updated networked based wiring
Reduced CPU count
More robotic assembly vs. human assembly
Single 12V battery
No fog lights
Less cameras
Seats 5 only configuration available
Cloth headliner
Less screws in door panel (Sandy Monroe will finally be able to sleep again ? )

 

[dleepnw]

This seems accurate. But then that begs the question of how are they going to achieve that and still be under the $50k price point? Smaller battery alone won't do it? They need to cut like $30k+ cost out of the R1. This seems too similar to the R1 to accomplish that.

If the R2 is not under $50k (really needs to be closer to $40k), then Rivian is going to have some serious issues. The market (and stock) is expecting this to be very affordable. If they miss that mark, I feel that the stock will take another huge hit and the company may not even survive to see the R2 hit the roads.

the suspension is going to be more traditional, no flashlight, camp speaker, air compressor, in-house drivetrain, smaller battery, smaller wheels/tires, simpler network architecture and simpler design/materials on the interior. i think they will get to $45-50k for a base version.

 

[TimJim]

It's got a driver side mirror! It's got a driver side mirror!

That's absolutely fantastic!!!!! Order place today! ?

This is what you tell everybody on Thurs/reveal day:
"Emergency! emergency! ... everybody to get from street!"

Ok, I love all the Star Wars references… but I never could have imagined that I would see the day where I could get a perfect reference to the classic 1960s movie “The Russians Are Coming” on RivianForums. Well played @NY_Rob. I was with you before I even realized there was a link.

 

[HaveBlue]

My above post was just about body style. Below are my old predictions about the R2 overall:

I'd be shocked at front wheel drive. That would suck and no reason to do that.

 

[IGR]

I'd be shocked at front wheel drive. That would suck and no reason to do that.

Why not? R1 platform is already front wheel drive oriented, Quad when in conserve and Dual motor pretty much all the time unless you are accelerating from stand still.

Also:
Having front wheel permanently coupled to motor will ensure maximum break regen,

 

[tobidogger]

Pretty sure the spoiler is there. But looks like no split tailgate. Other than that, it's a R1 mini-me so far (which is not a bad thing IMO).

Right... look at the BMW, Audi, Jag, etc... their models are the click / drag to scale. Same styling cues, etc... just larger/smaller versions. My XF, XE, XJ were the same damn car just scaled up and down. It makes a lot of sense.

I do think they could save all that price difference not putting the Rivian logo on everything, HAHAHA. Have you ever noticed that the compass (I think that is what it is) is on the door frame, on the door, on the side of the dash....sometimes less is more!

 

[sstevens805]

I think this is going to take a sizeable chunk of MY buyers.

 

[HaveBlue]

Why not? R1 platform is already front wheel drive oriented, Quad when in conserve and Dual motor pretty much all the time unless you are accelerating from stand still.

Also:
Having front wheel permanently coupled to motor will ensure maximum break regen,

5.5 sec 0-60 in a front wheel drive 4Runner sized, Landcruiser weight vehicle is going to suck. Torque steer, tire wear, traction, towing and performance will be horrible. FWD is fine when essentially coasting but having the rear kick in when it's needed is essential. It stays in AWD when towing and all other modes. Regen is fairly weak in comparison to the brakes. Even Tesla uses RWD for the single motor. Maybe Dodge Caravan buyers will flock to Rivian for a front drive Ute. At least a dual motor option will be available if that happens.

 

[vandy1981]

5.5 sec 0-60 in a front wheel drive 4Runner sized, Landcruiser weight vehicle is going to suck. Torque steer, tire wear, traction, towing and performance will be horrible. FWD is fine when essentially coasting but having the rear kick in when it's needed is essential. It stays in AWD when towing and all other modes. Regen is fairly weak in comparison to the brakes. Even Tesla uses RWD for the single motor. Maybe Dodge Caravan buyers will flock to Rivian for a front drive Ute. At least a dual motor option will be available if that happens.

Sixth teaser live!

 

[Augsburg]

Based on the blocky, black glasses framed on the face in the rear view mirror of the latest teaser shot, either I am driving the R2 for that shot, or my stand-in RJ is driving.

 

[dleepnw]

the rear brake light being square is a bit odd. seems out of character wrt to their design language. i would have expected an oval or line. then again, maybe then wanted some different elements and its a prototype so things could change.

 

[HaveBlue]

Sixth teaser live!

Looks sick! That's gonna be a cool car.

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