Thoughts on Gen2 R1S Quad vs Tri-Motor?

[Race3]

I’m deciding between a Gen2 R1S Quad vs Tri motor. Any thoughts? I’m surprised Rivian hasn’t yet announced pricing or range numbers for the quad, which is causing me to hold off on buying a tri-motor until i know more. Anyone have info on the quad range (typical and conserve mode) or quad price over the tri? Also anyone hear anything about actual quad availability dates?

Any other differences to consider? Obviously the quad will be faster and provide torque vectoring in front, but welcome any thoughts when deciding between these models, given the limited info we have on the quad. I also wonder if the quad will have any new features that the tri-motor doesn’t have, since they are taking so long to announce details.

I also plan to get the all terrain tires for either. With all terrain, will the max power still be available or do they limit it? Therefore quad might not be as appealing if you can’t actually access all the torque.

Welcome any discussion on all the pro’s & con’s of each and is it worth waiting for quad.

Thanks.

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[MidnightRivian]

QUAD FTW especially if you plan to go off-road.

Hopefully they improve off-road performance from Gen 1 Quad to Gen 2 Quad using a hardware solution.

You should get the same horsepower on all tire variants. You will get max horsepower In sport mode.

your 0-60 times will be slower on all terrain tires.

 

[beatle]

I think the power and handling benefits of the quad will be muted by running ATs. Even the performance dual motor trucks are traction limited at lower speeds on ATs. A tri motor will allow for more power to be delivered to the rear which will help acceleration, but I don't think the quad will have more power in the rear than the tri, so it may only start to pull on the tri after 40 mph or so where front traction is not as limited (this is just a guess). I don't think Rivian proactively limits your power based on your tire choice, but it will reactively reduce power to limit wheelspin.

Tri will have more range and cost less than the equivalent quad config.

 

[Electrified Outdoors]

This question has come up a few times and with good reason. There's no right or wrong answer. I think it depends on what you're looking for. If you're looking for the best value for performance, I would say a gen 1 quad is the way to go. If you're looking for a more refined ride, autonomy platform features coming in the future, and improved lighting I think Gen2 is a good deal as well.

 

[usulio]

Three words: tank turn, duh.

 

[Race3]

thanks all. Why do you think they haven’t released pricing or actual availability (i.e. which month) at this point? I’ve heard dealers say me so many different things… with some saying it will only be $5k more and others saying it will be $20k more than try-motor.

Was anyone at the release when Rivian provided demos of the quad in the northwest? Would be nice to get more info on the quad range, price and available dates, along with any driving advantages (are there any?) — if possible.

 

[sub]

Why do you think they haven’t released pricing or actual availability (i.e. which month) at this point?

My theory is that they have not yet actually finished designing it. And they have finally learned their lesson about the risks involved in releasing specs/prices/dates on products not yet fully baked.

The only flaw in my theory is that they probably haven't leaned their lesson and will continue to shoot themselves in the foot by publishing details/dates that they have no hope in living up to.

 

[BrianB]

850 hp vs 1025 hp in an SUV is kind of a crazy thing to choose between. They’re both insanely fast. There is no hole in traffic you won’t be able to squirt into. If you don’t mind waiting or the extra cost, there’s no reason not to go all out with the quad.

 

[Mathme]

I don’t think Rivian has released enough stats and specifics between dual, tri, and Quads for Gen 2 to really be able to make a fully informed decision at this point.

Theoretically, quads will likely be better for serious off roading - if they have true locker capability. But again I do t think we really know this point.

At this point the only thing we really know about these new trucks are increased horsepower, some pricing, and new colors. Most everything beyond that is conjecture.

 

[Killer95Stang]

850 hp vs 1025 hp in an SUV is kind of a crazy thing to choose between. They’re both insanely fast. There is no hole in traffic you won’t be able to squirt into. If you don’t mind waiting or the extra cost, there’s no reason not to go all out with the quad.

I may or may not had a chance to ride in a gen 2 quad over the weekend and let me say... I'm ready for the Air Forces Giant Centrifuge. The acceleration is insane to the point where I had to clench my abs and jaw to keep myself from being sick. The motor whine at full tilt was reminiscent of a Dodge Hellcats supercharger whine. Otherwise, Gen 2 seem a lot more refined than our Gen 1 R1., quiet, smooth..etc..

 

[Race3]

this video above starts at the point of talking about the new motors. I'm wondering if the new FRONT motor in the quad will be more or less efficient than the FRONT motor in the dual... thoughts?? If so, that could give the quad more power AND more range than the other vehicles. But from what I'm "guessing" he says towards the end of this section that the TRI motor benefits from the range of the "outgoing" dual motors and the power of the QUAD REAR motor... in which case the TRI motor seems like the best spot for power and range combo.

Any thoughts? Do you think there's any chance the quad version will actually offer the same or better range than the TRI?

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