Reminder: Rivian Promised Level 3 "Eyes Off the Road" Autonomy on Gen 1

[kyunam]

I love driving my Rivian every second !

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[Dark-Fx]

Reminder: don't buy anything based on promised features.

 

[captainjp]

Remember when Tesla promised a Roadster with cold gas thrusters?

 

[rbrak29]

2025 hands free, 2026 eyes free. With original Gen 2 hardware? 2026...hardware upgrade...free?

 

[CTRedCanyon]

2025 hands free, 2026 eyes free. With original Gen 2 hardware? 2026...hardware upgrade...free?

Zero chance they are going eyes free in 2026

 

[beyond]

from the site's terms of service (from the archive)

The Site may be updated from time to time and may change its content at any time. Although Rivian makes reasonable efforts to update the information on the Site, it makes no representations, warranties or guarantees, whether express or implied, that the Content is accurate, complete or up-to-date.​

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just throwing that out for the fun of it.

 

[godfodder0901]

from the site's terms of service (from the archive)

The Site may be updated from time to time and may change its content at any time. Although Rivian makes reasonable efforts to update the information on the Site, it makes no representations, warranties or guarantees, whether express or implied, that the Content is accurate, complete or up-to-date.​

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just throwing that out for the fun of it.

Just because they don't have any legal liability doesn't mean they weren't disingenuous, misleading, or lying.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Just because they don't have any legal liability doesn't mean they weren't disingenuous, misleading, or lying.

And just because it didn’t come to fruition doesn’t mean they were disingenuous, misleading or lying. As I mentioned in here already there was a global pandemic and massive supply chain disruptions. Even established legacy auto shipped vehicles without certain features.

Rivian could have fully intended to ship those features but were limited by hardware availability. The fact that gen 2 got an upgraded system lends credence to this idea.

 

[Gentilly7]

If you are dissatisfied with Rivian or your vehicle I have an idea. Trade it in and get something else. Just another suggestion since Tesla is so great; trade in on a Tesla. I hear their sales are rapidly slowing (for some unknown reason), and they are giving very high trade offers right now (seriously).

The inevitable “go buy a Tesla” response

 

[godfodder0901]

And just because it didn’t come to fruition doesn’t mean they were disingenuous, misleading or lying. As I mentioned in here already there was a global pandemic and massive supply chain disruptions. Even established legacy auto shipped vehicles without certain features.

Rivian could have fully intended to ship those features but were limited by hardware availability. The fact that gen 2 got an upgraded system lends credence to this idea.

Again, I'm not buying that. They have shown ZERO capability of providing the features they claimed they had 5 years ago. They didn't say they 'might' have those features, they said they were already in testing and RJ said they were ready to demo them. Even if the BS excuse of the supply chain issues were true, that's over now. Why is Gen 2 still using MobileEye? If the capability existed 5 years ago as they claim, why does Gen 2 still fall so far behind?

I'm glad you aren't upset or disappointed right now, but call me in three years when Gen 3 comes out and Gen 2 still can't do hands free...

 

[Hereforthesnacks]

from the site's terms of service (from the archive)

The Site may be updated from time to time and may change its content at any time. Although Rivian makes reasonable efforts to update the information on the Site, it makes no representations, warranties or guarantees, whether express or implied, that the Content is accurate, complete or up-to-date.​

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just throwing that out for the fun of it.

This language can only get Rivian so far. For example, they can’t say the car gets 400 miles per charge and then have it turn out that people can only get 200. This language usually addresses issues on the fringe.

 

[rbrak29]

....Why is Gen 2 still using MobileEye? If the capability existed 5 years ago as they claim, why does Gen 2 still fall so far behind?

I have heard that Rivian using not only MobileEye but its own in-house hardware for its ADAS.

 

[godfodder0901]

I have heard that Rivian using not only MobileEye but its own in-house hardware for its ADAS.

Pretty sure it's the same in Gen 1; latitudinal with MobileEye vs. longitudinal with in-house control.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Again, I'm not buying that. They have shown ZERO capability of providing the features they claimed they had 5 years ago. They didn't say they 'might' have those features, they said they were already in testing and RJ said they were ready to demo them. Even if the BS excuse of the supply chain issues were true, that's over now. Why is Gen 2 still using MobileEye? If the capability existed 5 years ago as they claim, why does Gen 2 still fall so far behind?

I'm glad you aren't upset or disappointed right now, but call me in three years when Gen 3 comes out and Gen 2 still can't do hands free...

Even if that’s the case I wouldn’t care because I bought the vehicle based on what it could do at the time of purchase.

 

[godfodder0901]

Even if that’s the case I wouldn’t care because I bought the vehicle based on what it could do at the time of purchase.

Neat.

But the entire point of this thread is talking about the unfulfilled promises made in this arena.

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