Electric Toyota Tacoma

[R1T7777]

I would be VERY interested in an electric Tacoma except for the fact that I've come to expect Toyota to generally play it safe/restrained. An electric Tacoma is very unlikely to be as powerful as the R1T and likely won't have all of the on-road capabilities of the R1T.

I also suspect the infotainment won't be as nice and the interior will be more utilitarian versus the more luxury focused interior of the R1T.

Still...I'm interested to see what they actually do with it. It could be some solid competition for the R1T, though likely at a lower price-point.

If they undercut on price significantly and have more aftermarket compatibility I could see an E Taco being a solid choice. Justices needs a 300+ mile range.

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[Pherdnut]

If they undercut on price significantly and have more aftermarket compatibility I could see an E Taco being a solid choice. Justices needs a 300+ mile range.

I've been surprised how much the legacy manufacturers seem to struggle with range.

 

[ads75]

I've been surprised how much the legacy manufacturers seem to struggle with range.

I think thats because they haven't really gone "all in", until recently. Most of their products are ICE conversions. The Chevy Bolt is ground up EV, but its fairly small, hard to put a big battery in there.

 

[Biturbowned]

Honestly that would probably tempt me away from the R1T if the timing works out (I doubt it). Very cool truck.

 

[SeaGeo]

I've been surprised how much the legacy manufacturers seem to struggle with range.

How so?

 

[ironpig]

Toyota is very late to the party and they have had a horrible anti-EV stance for a long time. But I have owned many Toyotas (still have a 4Runner and an FJ55) and I would buy that electric tacoma sized truck in a second. I will definitely be a day 1 pre-order holder for it if Toyota has a pre-order.

 

[Whmorken]

Toyota is very late to the party and they have had a horrible anti-EV stance for a long time. But I have owned many Toyotas (still have a 4Runner and an FJ55) and I would buy that electric tacoma sized truck in a second. I will definitely be a day 1 pre-order holder for it if Toyota has a pre-order.

When Toyota comes, as it will, it will be like a crash of thunder and fall like a ton of bricks. No missing it. Will they have a choice? Emphatic no. Will it be a surprise? Yes! Good to anticipate the day Toyota goes electric.

 

[ironpig]

When Toyota comes, as it will, it will be like a crash of thunder and fall like a ton of bricks. No missing it. Will they have a choice? Emphatic no. Will it be a surprise? Yes! Good to anticipate the day Toyota goes electric.

It's been hard to watch them take the low road with the EV transition the last few years. They were the leaders in Hybrids and they just wanted to hold on to that as long as possible. All the good will they earned from the Prius (which is an incredible product) is kind of lost because they were vocal about their lack of enthusiasm for EVs.

I am very excited to see what they offer. Toyota and EV should be a great match.

 

[Whmorken]

It's been hard to watch them take the low road with the EV transition the last few years. They were the leaders in Hybrids and they just wanted to hold on to that as long as possible. All the good will they earned from the Prius (which is an incredible product) is kind of lost because they were vocal about their lack of enthusiasm for EVs.

I am very excited to see what they offer. Toyota and EV should be a great match.

We are a Toyota family, then Tesla, then Rivian, and now all three. Yes, watching Toyota fall so far behind the curve is painful, so painful. Innovation seems to require a death process — forget the past, press on — “Don’t solve problems, seize opportunity”, as George Gilder said decades ago while commenting on the digital explosion. We are now in a physical transportation revolution that is underground, in space, on ground, through water, above water, in the air. It’s amazing. Note: the America’s Cup. Some will miss out or simply be late adopters.

 

[LeoH]

Toyota will not mass produce something until they are 100% sure it is practical first. There is a reason the Mirai isn't sold everywhere, albeit it being a fantastic car to drive. I think now they have what they need to rock on.

What i'm interested to see is what they will do for the 5th generation Prius, it surely will have some indications on what the EV products might be.

I see a large SUV in there, has cues of a 3rd row vehicle, if they announce it before I get my Rivian, I am cancelling and reserving it.

 

[DuckTruck]

Toyota is very late to the party and they have had a horrible anti-EV stance for a long time. But I have owned many Toyotas (still have a 4Runner and an FJ55) and I would buy that electric tacoma sized truck in a second. I will definitely be a day 1 pre-order holder for it if Toyota has a pre-order.

ironpig,

I have never owned a Toyota, but I have many friends who are lifelong loyalists. Year in and year out, the Big T has collected multiple awards for the greatest reliability ratings and highest resale value. It seemed like they were leading the way into the Electric Revolution with the Prius, and many other "strong hybrid" cars. Then, they seemed to stop evolving.

Their hydrogen-powered detour looked like it was going to take the roads in growing numbers and lead the way to a new future in personal transportation. They were so amazingly clean and quiet, you could hear the crickets. Everywhere, you could hear the crickets. Hydrogen may be a solid route to clean mobility sometime in the future, but not before EV's take center stage in the metamorphosis towards cleaner rides.

For such a forward-looking company with such a fanatical fanbase, they seemed to have lost their way. Many of the Toyota fans I know dabbled with the Nissan Leaf before jumping into the Tesla family to enjoy the benefits of fully-electric and, arguably, a more stylish/hip way of getting around.

I get the appeal of a family of reliable, value-holding vehicles from an industry stalwart, but was amazed when they ceded their leadership in electrification to Nissan, Chevy, Ford, and others. If it weren't for Rivian, I'd be compelled to look seriously at Toyota's first real all-electric truck, but they're kind of late to the party, as you mentioned. When you walk into the bar at 1:30 in the morning, there's a good chance you're leaving disappointed (to be clear, I am talking about Toyota here).

If they're first to truly develop and mass-produce the solid-state battery, they're going to do very well. But if they don't get their poop in a group soon, they're going to be way, way behind the rest of the industry.

 

[Whmorken]

Toyota will not mass produce something until they are 100% sure it is practical first. There is a reason the Mirai isn't sold everywhere, albeit it being a fantastic car to drive. I think now they have what they need to rock on.

What i'm interested to see is what they will do for the 5th generation Prius, it surely will have some indications on what the EV products might be.

I see a large SUV in there, has cues of a 3rd row vehicle, if they announce it before I get my Rivian, I am cancelling and reserving it.

Large SUV coming as fast as you suggest. Transition reminds me of the clipper ship era 1840’s to 60’s, only 25+ years. Toyota perfected high speed sailing, and then put a steam engine on a sailing ship called Prius.

 

[ATX]

Toyota makes great, long last cars. Most do not surprise. But then there’s something like the FJ Cruiser. I’ll be hoping that the E-Taco or Compact Cruiser makes it to production in the near term because why wouldn’t we want a fun option from a company know for its reliability?

 

[Dbeglor]

Toyota makes great, long last cars. Most do not surprise. But then there’s something like the FJ Cruiser. I’ll be hoping that the E-Taco or Compact Cruiser makes it to production in the near term because why wouldn’t we want a fun option from a company know for its reliability?

Toyota makes great, long lasting ICE cars. We have no idea what their capabilities are making an EV. That's why this transition is so disruptive, it obliterated decades of built-up competitive advantage from the legacy makers. Toyota is a fledgling start up EV maker with a 2023 proof of concept vehicle and then a bunch of potential models in the latter half of the decade. Their ace in the hole is if they are first to solid state by a wide margin, but they aren't the only ones chasing that down.

That's why it's a flawed argument to argue about how many vehicles the legacy makers currently make. Very little of that production translates to the future. The supply chain largely has to be rebuilt, the factories have to be rebuilt, the technology has to be rebuilt, platforms have to be rebuilt, sales and marketing have to be rebuilt, R&D personnel will have to be rebuilt. The main advantage is that you already have suppliers for things that may not change like seats. And they have brand loyalty, which gives them a 2-3 year window to not screw it up. Some won't, some will.

 

[R1T7777]

I think thats because they haven't really gone "all in", until recently. Most of their products are ICE conversions. The Chevy Bolt is ground up EV, but its fairly small, hard to put a big battery in there.

And yet the Bolt has a pretty solid range. Pretty slow charge rate though...I usually pull 46kW.

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