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After the 2025.46 update installed, the phone app started nagging me to set up my digital key; saying that without it some functions would be unavailable. I finally attempted the digital key setup, even though I new it would fail. I have an older Samsun Z-flip phone. The setup failed. However, there is no provision for fallback. The app just keeps telling you to try again. (Remember Einstein's definition of insanity?) The digital key setup removes the Bluetooth Key, although both the phone key and the digital key now show in the list of keys under the security tab in both the app and the vehicle. Now any app function that used to use Bluetooth fails, includeng proximity lock/unlock and the function on the keyfob. I could not find a way to re-install the Bluetooth key function. I tried uninstalling the installing the app. Big mistake. Now none of the functions of the app work at all. The lock, unlock, hood, liftdate, and more buttons are no longer displayed on the home screen. All of the other finctions are either greyed out or don't work. I cant vier the cameras, adjust the climate control, or view the energy status. The app will not attempt to wake the vehicle. The status is never updated. The app is now a useless piece of garbage. It just keeps insisting that I install my digital key.

I tried a service request. The AI troubleshooter just offered to set up an appointment next year, as if that would do any good.

I'm happy for all the users with new expensive phones and Apple watches, who now have better keys, but I wish that Rivian had considered what would happen if the digital key installation failed and provided a fallback or recovery provision. They certainly had time, considering how long they took to roll-out the digital key. Don't they ever test changes to the app with older phones?

By the way, the key card, and the key fob still work, so the vehicle is usable, although it's inconvenient.

My advise is do not attempt to set up the digital key unless you are absolutely sure your phone is compatible, and have verifiedi it with the phone manufacturer. Do not allow the app to remove your Bluetooth key. Do not install the new version of the app, either. Of course, I this could be an excuse to buy a new phone, but i object to being arbitrarily forced into spending $1,000 or more.

Has anyone had a similar experience? Did you get it resolved?
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You need an UWB phone, if you can use Apple/Google pay then your phone is compatible. Honestly, almost everywhere accepts Apple Pay these days, so upgrading your phone would be worth that alone.

Paying with your phone is substantially more secure than using your credit card.
 

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You need an UWB phone, if you can use Apple/Google pay then your phone is compatible. Honestly, almost everywhere accepts Apple Pay these days, so upgrading your phone would be worth that alone.

Paying with your phone is substantially more secure than using your credit card.
That's not 100% true - I had a phone with Google Play on it that did NOT do tap and pay/touchless payment, as it didn't even have an NFC chip, much less UWB.
 

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That's not 100% true - I had a phone with Google Play on it that did NOT do tap and pay/touchless payment, as it didn't even have an NFC chip, much less UWB.
Fair, but I meant if you have those features, you know your phone will work. I was also talking not just about the digital key, but about the benefits of using tap-to-pay services.
 

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Fair, but I meant if you have those features, you know your phone will work.
This statement is absolutely false. The only feature that matters is UWB. Whether or not your phone has Google Pay, Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, BLE, NFC, RFID, MST, etc. makes no difference on compatability. UWB is the requirement.
 

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This statement is absolutely false. The only feature that matters is UWB. Whether or not your phone has Google Pay, Apple Pay, Samsung Pay, BLE, NFC, RFID, MST, etc. makes no difference on compatability. UWB is the requirement.
What phone has UWB but not a contactless payment solution?
 

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What phone has UWB but not a contactless payment solution?
The real question is how many have contactless payment but not UWB... That list is in the 1000s.
 

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The real question is how many have contactless payment but not UWB... That list is in the 1000s.
There's also a ton of phones that have chipsets with UWB on them that don't have UWB implemented, and no antenna for it. So you can't even depend on that.
 

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Call Rivian and they likely can reset something on your truck to get it working again. When we first brought our R1S home the keycards quit working when I was attempting to make a profile for my wife. I couldn't delete them and start over. Rivian support was able to delete them on their end and then I added them again.
 

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Call Rivian and they likely can reset something on your truck to get it working again. When we first brought our R1S home the keycards quit working when I was attempting to make a profile for my wife. I couldn't delete them and start over. Rivian support was able to delete them on their end and then I added them again.
Two different Rivian service agents spent several hours on the phone with me today,trying different things. One clue that that the entertainment screen and app showed the the Bluetooth was still there. Nothing worked. They say that my phone, a Samsung Z-flip 3 5G, is on their list of compatable devices. They checked the model number and software versions. They are stumped. They have a team of app developers working on it.
 

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I have an iPhone 16 Pro Max (which has UWB) and the setup failed for some reason. And that left me in the same state as you - I see both keys in the truck and app, but can't delete or change any of them. And what's worse the app is now saying "no cloud connection".

I've blocked an hour to call them this afternoon because I figure it'll take at least that long to sort out.
 

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I had a bit of a problem getting the new digital phone system to connect to my phone. Worked it out with a phone call to Rivian on Sunday afternoon without much time and to my total satisfaction.

What was EXTREMELY frustrating was that until it was fixed, the phone app was worthless as I had no access to locking or unlocking the vehicle nor access to the controls. All that was superseded by the message about upgrading to a digital key. So here I was running errands on Saturday with no way to lock the vehicle. It just stood there unlocked no matter how far away I was and how long I was in the store.

Having issues setting up a new digital key may be expected. Disabling important functions of your vehicle until you had the time to work it out is just very poor customer service and relations.
 

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I don't understand the fascination with this digital key. I too made the change because of the app request and the key was added to Samsung wallet which I don't use. I use Google wallet. Now I have to have an additional app just for the key. What can I do special that I couldn't do with the key in the Rivian app? (I've only had it one day so far so I haven't investigated it myself, just been aggravated by the change)
 

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I don't understand the fascination with this digital key. I too made the change because of the app request and the key was added to Samsung wallet which I don't use. I use Google wallet. Now I have to have an additional app just for the key. What can I do special that I couldn't do with the key in the Rivian app? (I've only had it one day so far so I haven't investigated it myself, just been aggravated by the change)
Several things. First, you can now gift up to 8 keys. So if you have a friend who wants to borrow your car, you can send them their own digital key and rescind it through the same app. Second, the accuracy and latency of proximity unlock have been substantially improved. UWB, the tech this is based on, can tell your distance from the receiver with far greater accuracy than Bluetooth.

Many complaints about laggy unlocks were due to inaccurate Bluetooth.
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