Has anyone gotten the 2025.46 Update yet? Please tell us your location and date you received.

[TexasCrane]

And, BTW, why can't rollout take place on non-business days? Do they shut down their servers at 5:30 when they punch the clock to go home? This should be an automated process run by computers that doesn't stop for weekends or holidays. What is so magical about business days for a rolling wave rollout of SW our vehicles download from a server?

So, you've never led a software rollout, huh?

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[Zoidz]

And, BTW, why can't rollout take place on non-business days? Do they shut down their servers at 5:30 when they punch the clock to go home? This should be an automated process run by computers that doesn't stop for weekends or holidays. What is so magical about business days for a rolling wave rollout of SW our vehicles download from a server?

They do it for the same reason that my company does not do software rollouts/updates/patches for our customers on Fridays - weekend support. You don't want to have a rollout support issue pop up that will the impact the customer, and the support/development staff are not available for immediate tech support/resolution of any issues. It inconveniences everybody.

I'm pretty certain that no Rivian customer is going to die, be hospitalized or otherwise be negatively impacted by Rivian not pushing updates over the weekends or on holidays. It's not even an inconvenience to the customer. We just have to put up with the whining here.

 

[biker1284]

Waaaa! I don't have my free stuff!!!

That's what all this complaining about slow OTA updates sounds like to me. Rivian could stop doing all of them tomorrow and forever and there is nothing we could say or do about it. Nothing.

Because they are not required to provide updates and we are not entitled to them. Think of them like gifts, and be thankful when you do get them. Instead of stomping your feet and crying like a toddler when they don't come on time.

This is a ridiculous sentiment. The rest of us are having a conversation on a forum, you are the one who sounds most like you are "stomping your feet and crying like a toddler."

The fact is that OTA updates are no longer a gift, it is an industry standard. Virtually every car company offers some form of OTA updates. Even the Rivian platform and joint venture with VW has that exact intention of allowing and improving OTA updates. If Rivian didn't offer OTA updates, many of us wouldn't have purchased the car the begin with... especially because some advertised features were promised as OTA updates.

None of us have problems with receiving it on a delay, the issue is just that they have a published timeframe that they are not consistent with. I don't see a reason why people can't vent about that without abusive responses.

 

[Scottski]

This is a ridiculous sentiment. The rest of us are having a conversation on a forum, you are the one who sounds most like you are "stomping your feet and crying like a toddler."

The fact is that OTA updates are no longer a gift, it is an industry standard. Virtually every car company offers some form of OTA updates. Even the Rivian platform and joint venture with VW has that exact intention of allowing and improving OTA updates. If Rivian didn't offer OTA updates, many of us wouldn't have purchased the car the begin with... especially because some advertised features were promised as OTA updates.

None of us have problems with receiving it on a delay, the issue is just that they have a published timeframe that they are not consistent with. I don't see a reason why people can't vent about that without abusive responses.

Buy it for what it's got/can do today, not what might be coming down the road.

 

[Nixapatfan]

I for one am glad I haven't received the update yet, not sure I want to install it yet. Seeing way too many stories of increased vampire drain in the various online communities after this update from mostly Gen2.

Maybe they have a bug and reworking the update which could be the reason for the delays.

 

[mkhuffman]

This is a ridiculous sentiment. The rest of us are having a conversation on a forum, you are the one who sounds most like you are "stomping your feet and crying like a toddler."

The fact is that OTA updates are no longer a gift, it is an industry standard. Virtually every car company offers some form of OTA updates. Even the Rivian platform and joint venture with VW has that exact intention of allowing and improving OTA updates. If Rivian didn't offer OTA updates, many of us wouldn't have purchased the car the begin with... especially because some advertised features were promised as OTA updates.

None of us have problems with receiving it on a delay, the issue is just that they have a published timeframe that they are not consistent with. I don't see a reason why people can't vent about that without abusive responses.

Rivian published a timeframe? I missed that. @Rivian Roamer posted his experience with the typical rollout, but that is hardly anything official.

Rivian has never promised future capabilities you do not currently own. If you purchased because of a future capability, that was your mistake. Not Rivian's.

I was thinking today about all the times I complained about my car on a car forum. I am pretty sure the number of times is zero. Even after I experienced problems like getting locked out of my Mach-e in the rain due to PaaK failures, I didn't complain. And I have made 6,800+ posts in that forum.

I totally disagree that you are entitled to OTA updates. You are not. They are gifts, not guarantees.

Rivian can choose to fix a problem with an OTA update rather than a service visit, but that is their choice. They could require you to come into the service center to have it done. They don't because it is cheaper, and the experience is better for the owner. Of course. But they don't have to.

My wife's Grand Cherokee has received two OTA updates in the two years we have owned it. And I had no idea they were coming. They just came. Like a gift. LOL. OTAs are definitely not an industry standard. They are the exception.

I do not accept the entitlement mentality so many people have. Sorry if that offends you, but here in this forum we can all express our opinions. Just like you did. And complaining about a gift is just offensive to me. And what is the point anyway? No point. Just like there is no point in a toddler stomping his feet because he didn't get the cookie he thought he was intitled to.

 

[biker1284]

Rivian published a timeframe? I missed that. @Rivian Roamer posted his experience with the typical rollout, but that is hardly anything official.

Rivian has never promised future capabilities you do not currently own. If you purchased because of a future capability, that was your mistake. Not Rivian's.

I was thinking today about all the times I complained about my car on a car forum. I am pretty sure the number of times is zero. Even after I experienced problems like getting locked out of my Mach-e in the rain due to PaaK failures, I didn't complain. And I have made 6,800+ posts in that forum.

I totally disagree that you are entitled to OTA updates. You are not. They are gifts, not guarantees.

Rivian can choose to fix a problem with an OTA update rather than a service visit, but that is their choice. They could require you to come into the service center to have it done. They don't because it is cheaper, and the experience is better for the owner. Of course. But they don't have to.

My wife's Grand Cherokee has received two OTA updates in the two years we have owned it. And I had no idea they were coming. They just came. Like a gift. LOL. OTAs are definitely not an industry standard. They are the exception.

I do not accept the entitlement mentality so many people have. Sorry if that offends you, but here in this forum we can all express our opinions. Just like you did. And complaining about a gift is just offensive to me. And what is the point anyway? No point. Just like there is no point in a toddler stomping his feet because he didn't get the cookie he thought he was intitled to.

Feel free to actually read the thread that you are replying to:

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...ation-and-date-you-received.53791/post-924974

 

[mkhuffman]

Feel free to actually read the thread that you are replying to:

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...ation-and-date-you-received.53791/post-924974

Dude, you cannot be serious. That was unofficial information provided to @Rivian Roamer by Rivian.

You know what you are doing? You are making it harder for him to share information like that in the future. Think about it.

Let's say a person at Rivian tells you something because you have a relationship with him/her, and then you post it on a forum, and then people start blaming Rivian for that information. How motivated will that relationship be next time to share something not official? And how motivated will you be knowing you just possibly got someone in trouble at Rivian?

Knock it off. You are embarrassing yourself and just making everything worse.

 

[biker1284]

Dude, you cannot be serious. That was unofficial information provided to @Rivian Roamer by Rivian.

You know what you are doing? You are making it harder for him to share information like that in the future. Think about it.

Let's say a person at Rivian tells you something because you have a relationship with him/her, and then you post it on a forum, and then people start blaming Rivian for that information. How motivated will that relationship be next time to share something not official? And how motivated will you be knowing you just possibly got someone in trouble at Rivian?

Knock it off. You are embarrassing yourself and just making everything worse.

I'm sure @Rivian Roamer is not posting and publicly citing things on an open Rivian forum that will get people in trouble or tarnish his relationship.

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[sacramentoelectric]

So, you've never led a software rollout, huh?

 

[mkhuffman]

I'm sure @Rivian Roamer is not posting and publicly citing things on an open Rivian forum that will get people in trouble or tarnish his relationship.

Edit: Removed comment towards mkhuffman

At Ford they make insiders sign an NDA. I did one of those when I was part of their early access program. They kicked people out of the program when they violated the NDA. Is that what you want?

I don't know if he had to sign an NDA, but Rivian only has to be burned a few times before they do something similar.

And of course, I know he is not sharing anything that he thinks will get people in trouble. But he also probably didn't expect you and others to start attributing his willingness to share what he knows with official guidance from Rivian. Lesson learned, unfortunately.

Official information is released by Rivian. Period. If you blame insiders for helping give visibility to the process, you will get less insiders willing to share. I hope he keeps sharing even though you put him in a bad spot.

 

[Zoidz]

I for one am glad I haven't received the update yet, not sure I want to install it yet. Seeing way too many stories of increased vampire drain in the various online communities after this update from mostly Gen2.

Maybe they have a bug and reworking the update which could be the reason for the delays.

I received it two weeks ago and still have not installed it.

 

[VSG]

the issue is just that they have a published timeframe that they are not consistent with

No. Rivian has neither published nor committed to any update release schedule. What we know about the OTA scheduling is purely observational, which nonetheless holds true because it simply reflects the internal processes and procedures that we have witnessed for over four years now.

One of those things we have observed is that the software team always takes a 2-week break in the OTA development around the new year. We know this because there is always a gap in the releases at this time of year and a renumbering of the releases - rather than the usual every 4-week schedule the first OTA of the year is delayed by a few weeks.

So while Rivian has been extremely consistent over the years, enough so that observations give us some very useful metrics, deviations from the norm are always a mystery. In the case of 2025.46, we can reasonably guess that the absence of 2025.42 was due to the huge new features planned to be released in conjunction with Autonomy day. And we can reasonably assume that the 1-week-before-Christmas release meant that the rollout was affected by holidays.

As it is, the first week of the rollout saw it pushed to the vast majority of Connect+ subscribers, as usual and expected. (And if you are a Connect+ subscriber and didn't get it - start look for reasons on your end ...). The 1-week mark coincided with Christmas, and that is when non-Connect+ people like me would normally start to see the update, with the vast majority of non-Connect+ people receiving it within that second week. That is how it has always been. But since this non-Connect rollout would have happened when many people were on vacation, it's really no surprise that they postponed it until people are back in the office. Again, just speculation because none of this has ever been promised or announced as official Rivian communication.

The only real problem here is the entitled people who start complaining within hours of first release, blaming Rivian for "lying" about giving priority to Connect+ users and now apparently moving on to blame @Rivian Roamer for giving the user community tools and information that make the OTA process more understandable. Perhaps instead of complaining you should do some reading and avail yourself of some of these tools instead of spreading FUD.

 

[biker1284]

No. Rivian has neither published nor committed to any update release schedule. What we know about the OTA scheduling is purely observational, which nonetheless holds true because it simply reflects the internal processes and procedures that we have witnessed for over four years now.

One of those things we have observed is that the software team always takes a 2-week break in the OTA development around the new year. We know this because there is always a gap in the releases at this time of year and a renumbering of the releases - rather than the usual every 4-week schedule the first OTA of the year is delayed by a few weeks.

So while Rivian has been extremely consistent over the years, enough so that observations give us some very useful metrics, deviations from the norm are always a mystery. In the case of 2025.46, we can reasonably guess that the absence of 2025.42 was due to the huge new features planned to be released in conjunction with Autonomy day. And we can reasonably assume that the 1-week-before-Christmas release meant that the rollout was affected by holidays.

As it is, the first week of the rollout saw it pushed to the vast majority of Connect+ subscribers, as usual and expected. (And if you are a Connect+ subscriber and didn't get it - start look for reasons on your end ...). The 1-week mark coincided with Christmas, and that is when non-Connect+ people like me would normally start to see the update, with the vast majority of non-Connect+ people receiving it within that second week. That is how it has always been. But since this non-Connect rollout would have happened when many people were on vacation, it's really no surprise that they postponed it until people are back in the office. Again, just speculation because none of this has ever been promised or announced as official Rivian communication.

The only real problem here is the entitled people who start complaining within hours of first release, blaming Rivian for "lying" about giving priority to Connect+ users and now apparently moving on to blame @Rivian Roamer for giving the user community tools and information that make the OTA process more understandable. Perhaps instead of complaining you should do some reading and avail yourself of some of these tools instead of spreading FUD.

No one is blaming Rivian Roamer... They were literally thanked by myself and told they weren't being blamed earlier, but perhaps you didn't read the thread. And commenting that we haven't received an update on a timeline that was provided by Rivian is not entitlement.

https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...ation-and-date-you-received.53791/post-924979

 

[Rivian Roamer]

I'm sure @Rivian Roamer is not posting and publicly citing things on an open Rivian forum that will get people in trouble or tarnish his relationship.

Edit: Removed comment towards mkhuffman

I think people are taking this a little too seriously, it's a software update.

Are people truly going to say they've done everything they've said with 100% accuracy? It's a guideline of how they plan to release software. Exceptions happen, things happen. It's not a contract nor obligation.

I've shared the information to stop the constant comments of people trying to do a rain dance to get it faster as if that's going to somehow get you up earlier in line. Rivian was gracious enough to review and give me updated information that I can share.

No one is making it harder for me to share anything. But with that said, there seems to be an inappropriate amount of hostility around a software update.

I believe in the democratization of information. Everyone could certainly use a little more grace, for RIvian, for other community members and for themselves.

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