Scout delayed again to 2028/2030 according to reports

[MountainBikeDude]

Per Jalopnik, so not incredibly reliable

Two months ago, reporting from German publication, Der Spiegel said the Scouts had been delayed even further due to technical problems with the trucks' development, with production not set to start until summer 2028. CEO Scott Keogh somewhat confirmed that about a week later, saying that he expected customers to get their hands on Scouts sometime in 2028. Now, a new report from AutoForecast Solutions, brought to our attention by Autoline, says Scout's delays are even worse than we thought. The Traveler SUV's start-of-production date has been pushed back to September 1, 2028, while the Terra pickup apparently won't enter production until March 1, 2030.

Also of note is a comment in the article about a redditor posting of friends working on the project are saying the engine they've sourced for the EREV harvester version is causing issues with heat in
Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/2143661/scout-terra-pickup-traveler-suv-production-delay-2030-report/

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[Nixapatfan]

The overheating issues were kind of predictable given where they are planning to place the engine.

Rumor was the EREV was just an after thought and not tested prior to reveal then the reservations locked them in forcing them to pivot away from the BEV.

Hopefully with the delays they are planning to be competitive with everything else that will be getting refreshed by then or it will be a disaster for them as I feel like they missed their window of opportunity.

 

[Time2Roll]

All the more reason to me for just starting with the EV Traveler.

 

[DuoRivian]

All the more reason to me for just starting with the EV Traveler.

All the more reason to close down Scout and buy Rivian. Get access to two factories, a franchise dealer network and good tech.
Scout is too niche - the market for a more hardcore off roading EV is limited. EREV is a transitory technology so again limited for volumes.

 

[captainjp]

Stick a fork in ‘em…

 

[ENVErider]

Per Jalopnik, so not incredibly reliable

Two months ago, reporting from German publication, Der Spiegel said the Scouts had been delayed even further due to technical problems with the trucks' development, with production not set to start until summer 2028. CEO Scott Keogh somewhat confirmed that about a week later, saying that he expected customers to get their hands on Scouts sometime in 2028. Now, a new report from AutoForecast Solutions, brought to our attention by Autoline, says Scout's delays are even worse than we thought. The Traveler SUV's start-of-production date has been pushed back to September 1, 2028, while the Terra pickup apparently won't enter production until March 1, 2030.

Also of note is a comment in the article about a redditor posting of friends working on the project are saying the engine they've sourced for the EREV harvester version is causing issues with heat in
Read More: https://www.jalopnik.com/2143661/scout-terra-pickup-traveler-suv-production-delay-2030-report/

While the date on this cited article is only a few days old, this news on the delay was released months ago; here's a post on this same forum, but lots of YouTubers have shared info. It was sad news for me because Scout was making the only other truck that I was excited about.
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/...-2028-report-admin-warning-no-politics.56101/

As a mechanical engineer by trade, I personally feel all the EREVs are a marketing scam of sorts. Yeah, you can build one, but there's no free lunch. Yes, that's what buyers want, but you can't deliver all those promises when they defy physics. Ram's approach to EREV with a monter ICE motor will deliver the power, but you don't need any scientific background to conclude that carrying around two nearly full-sized propulsion systems will crush efficiency, usable volume, towing, etc... Scout sales side probably realized they should have listened to their engineers telling them a little ICE in the back wasn't going to have your cake and eat it too design feature, there will be big compromises. Maybe there are buyers, maybe not; time will tell. Ford and Chevy have 100s to 1000s of engineers; some must have considered EREV, and they didn't offer it for a reason.

 

[godfodder0901]

Ford and Chevy have 100s to 1000s of engineers; some must have considered EREV, and they didn't offer it for a reason.

They actually did... The Chevy Volt is/was an EREV.

 

[Thedude]

Ram's approach to EREV with a monter ICE motor will deliver the power, but you don't need any scientific background to conclude that carrying around two nearly full-sized propulsion systems will crush efficiency, usable volume, towing, etc...

How do you figure that? The engine sits in the same space it does on an ICE truck, the motors sit in the same space as the solid axle differentials, the battery sits under the floor in space previously occupied by a transmission, transfer case and driveshafts. The chassis has more than enough capacity to carry all of that and still have a tow rating exceeding what most would tow and having a normal size truck bed. Sure you lose the EV frunk but that’s about the only sacrifice to usable volume compared to a full EV pickup.

 

[JoulesVerne]

Scout has been in trouble since day 1. Years ago I was looking through their job postings on the software side. Their infrastructure listings were all for Windows, which is a huge red flag. Then they paid billions to Rivian to save them from software hell. But software integrations are their own kind of hell. So to hear that there are non-software delays and software delays is really damning.

Maybe my Rivian IPO stock will break even some day?

 

[Time2Roll]

They actually did... The Chevy Volt is/was an EREV.

Yes and plenty of Volt reports trying to climb a grade with a depleted battery was quite a slog.
Then Scout says EREV version will have half the towing capacity and people went bonkers.

 

[Oldsmobile_Mike]

Heard on the radio last week that VW is also ending production of their only US-made EV? Hate it. Even if I don't like their vehicles personally, more competition is always better for the consumer.

 

[Great Gatsby]

I remember geeking out on the Scout reveal. I loved the idea and the looks. I wanted to put a deposit down so bad but then remembered I didn't want to drive the first few cars off the line. Let someone else handle the initial quality issues.

Then I saw they were full owned by VW and Rivian was doing the software. Coming in 2027 but I saw some momentum and figured...I can wait. Thought I would put a deposit but some strange headlines starting catching on about the percentage of reservations holders being 80% for the EREV. And then they said its now close to 87%.

Then rumors started and then became confirmed of delays and struggles to get the EREV version going. Okay, not good. Then I started to see the pivot. They wanted to get the EREV versions out. Once I saw the pivot was real, I knew Scout had a rough road ahead. They may still make it to market, but it will be probably close to 3-5 years before they get it together.

As someone else said, they should have released the full BEV version first. Fill up some orders, get some revenue going and give yourself more time to cook up the EREV (if still in high demand by then). Instead, the EREV will be rushed and likely riddled with problems and the BEV will be an afterthought.

Even if they had just gone full EV, a 350 mile range 800v architecture vehicle with a cabana roof, NACS port on the correct side, fun colors and bench seat in the front would have sold very well if under $60k.

Instead, this will likely come in 2028 over $80k with some initial hype but then struggle to keep momentum going. Cybertruck 2.0.

I really do hope they make it but I also hate to see such a good idea go to waste by the impulsive decision of higher ups.

 

[ENVErider]

They actually did... The Chevy Volt is/was an EREV.

I don't disagree; the Volt was technically an EREV, but in my experience, the lines between EREV and PHEV are sometimes blurred/grey. My comments were specifically to the large SUV/Truck sector that was the subject of the original post, and I was aware of the now-discontinued Volt when I shared my "no free lunch" comments. I'm also aware that recent news articles have claimed that Chevy, Ford, and others are now reconsidering EREV trucks/SUVs, stating that we're about to be flooded with EREVs.
https://insideevs.com/features/786506/every-erev-extended-range-ev-america-2026/
https://www.ev.guide/post/ready-or-not-the-erevs-are-coming

Personally, I'm holding onto my R1T and my R2 reservation; I'd be pleasantly surprised and happy to be proven wrong by automakers delivering real EREVs on the road that achieve most of the "do it all" EREV promises.

 

[ndmiller]

Maybe my Rivian IPO stock will break even some day?

IPO's are only designed to break even or make money for institutional investors and/or insiders that buy at a discount in the near term. General public can break even but it's a long term play for sure....Decade(s). You may get lucky, but most do not.

I was once an insider working for a company where a division spun off and went public. I received a 15% discount on my initial purchase of IPO shares and sold them in the first week. I made almost double my money, but the fact that I was young and hadn't a preferable pot to piss in made my upside about $500. My management and senior management made an absolute fortune buying cars and vacation homes with the windfall. At the end of the first year, stock price was 1/2 IPO level until almost 9 years later having split once.

 

[ENVErider]

How do you figure that? The engine sits in the same space it does on an ICE truck, the motors sit in the same space as the solid axle differentials, the battery sits under the floor in space previously occupied by a transmission, transfer case and driveshafts. The chassis has more than enough capacity to carry all of that and still have a tow rating exceeding what most would tow and having a normal size truck bed. Sure you lose the EV frunk but that’s about the only sacrifice to usable volume compared to a full EV pickup.

Respectfully, I'm not trying to offend anyone; I said you could build it, but there are big compromises, and I stand by that. There's a lot more engineering that needs to go into adding both a V6 ICE and a 92kW-hr battery pack. Yes, there's a website with specs listed today, but there was a page for the now defunct RAM1500EV truck for years, yet we never even saw test vehicles on the road.
Putting ICE upfront makes sense to make the skateboard platform work, but the ICE needs lots of systems that EVs don't use: intake air path, exhaust path, gas tank, separate cooling system from the battery thermal management system, SMOG, etc.. There's the penalty of weight in efficiency and towing from all that extra metal. Yes, you can put a HD truck frame with enough extra strength to handle the extra truck weight (I'm guessing a 9,000lb curb weight truck) and still be capable of 14K lbs towing, but it's not provided without compromises.
Personally, I'd be very sad to lose my frunk; I use it weekly. Silverado and F150 EV users reported this was a favorite feature too.

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