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Because of the difference in looks, price, and size differences between the R2 and the iX3, I'm a little shocked people are cross shopping them. The R2 is the boxy, affordable SUV I and many others want. The iX3 is just a gross looking egg. Might as well just get a Model Y L when it comes to the USA soon.
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Because of the difference in looks, price, and size differences between the R2 and the iX3, I'm a little shocked people are cross shopping them. The R2 is the boxy, affordable SUV I and many others want. The iX3 is just a gross looking egg. Might as well just get a Model Y L when it comes to the USA soon.
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Because of the difference in looks, price, and size differences between the R2 and the iX3, I'm a little shocked people are cross shopping them. The R2 is the boxy, affordable SUV I and many others want. The iX3 is just a gross looking egg. Might as well just get a Model Y L when it comes to the USA soon.
Gross looking egg is quite the critique coming from a Model 3 owner.

The iX3 has a typical boxy SUV profile. Not sure where the "egg" shape comment is coming from. It essentially looks like an X3 or X5 from the side. I understand the front can be polarizing, but as a long time BMW fan, I like the throw back to the 1970s era BMWs.

Many of us on here are current Rivian owners (myself included, 2 times actually), and/or have R2 reservations (again myself included), and the iX3 is a very compelling alternative.

I don't need the off-roading capability, but I love the look and style of Rivians, and really like the brand. However, I'm also a BMW enthusiast, and lean more towards luxury over off roading. The Model Y is truly an egg shaped CUV that has outdated battery tech, slow charging speeds, and doesn't offer many of the premium features of the iX3. So it's not even on my radar.

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Rivian needs to release the configurator already. Then we'll really see the price delta (or lack thereof) which will depend a lot on how much Rivian thinks they can get away with for upcharging colors at this price point.

I don't understand why they are actively making vehicles with deliveries expected next month but no configurator. I know BMW is a more mature company, but they are releasing a configurator now with deliveries scheduled for September-October.
100% Rivian needs to release the configurator. Everyone needs to know how much options will cost before making a final decision.

I was going back and forth with a redditor today, who had no idea that Rivian charged so much for paint and wheels. Didn’t even know there was a delivery fee. I wonder how many people are looking at Rivian thinking $54k or $58k is the final price. They certainly did.

the configurator needed to be out sooner for sure
 

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Well this is a Rivian enthusiast forum not a BMW forum lol. It just looks like a BMW-ified Tesla Model Y. And not a good looking one haha.
I don’t have any loyalty to Rivian. I drive them, but at the end of the day, I’m a consumer and happy to switch cars as they come about.
 

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Gross looking egg is quite the critique coming from a Model 3 owner.

The iX3 has a typical boxy SUV profile. Not sure where the "egg" shape comment is coming from. It essentially looks like an X3 or X5 from the side. I understand the front can be polarizing, but as a long time BMW fan, I like the throw back to the 1970s era BMWs.

Many of us on here are current Rivian owners (myself included, 2 times actually), and/or have R2 reservations (again myself included), and the iX3 is a very compelling alternative.

I don't need the off-roading capability, but I love the look and style of Rivians, and really like the brand. However, I'm also a BMW enthusiast, and lean more towards luxury over off roading. The Model Y is truly an egg shaped CUV that has outdated battery tech, slow charging speeds, and doesn't offer many of the premium features of the iX3. So it's not even on my radar.

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Everything you said can be summed up in your own statement: "I'm a BMW enthusiast" and "long time BMW fan." Which is perfectly fine. Fair play to you. But if you're not a BMW enthusiast the iX3 is very off putting IMO.
 

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100% Rivian needs to release the configurator. Everyone needs to know how much options will cost before making a final decision.

I was going back and forth with a redditor today, who had no idea that Rivian charged so much for paint and wheels. Didn’t even know there was a delivery fee. I wonder how many people are looking at Rivian thinking $54k or $58k is the final price. They certainly did.

the configurator needed to be out sooner for sure
I haven't reserved an iX3 yet, but will probably put in an order later today. I'll keep the R2 and iX3 reservations until the R2 final configurator is released, but it is frustrating to not know the final prices. I also have no idea if I'll be able to get a launch edition or not.

If a launch edition R2 ends up being in the mid $60s with a preferred color, wheels, and other possible options, we will probably get the iX3.
 

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I was going back and forth with a redditor today, who had no idea that Rivian charged so much for paint and wheels. Didn’t even know there was a delivery fee
Then that person has never bought a car - there's always a delivery fee attached to any vehicle sale, even if you happen to pick up the vehicle from the factory that it's made in (or the port that it arrives at if it's an import).
 

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Gross looking egg is quite the critique coming from a Model 3 owner.

The iX3 has a typical boxy SUV profile. Not sure where the "egg" shape comment is coming from. It essentially looks like an X3 or X5 from the side. I understand the front can be polarizing, but as a long time BMW fan, I like the throw back to the 1970s era BMWs.

Many of us on here are current Rivian owners (myself included, 2 times actually), and/or have R2 reservations (again myself included), and the iX3 is a very compelling alternative.

I don't need the off-roading capability, but I love the look and style of Rivians, and really like the brand. However, I'm also a BMW enthusiast, and lean more towards luxury over off roading. The Model Y is truly an egg shaped CUV that has outdated battery tech, slow charging speeds, and doesn't offer many of the premium features of the iX3. So it's not even on my radar.

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The Model Y has similar charging speeds and battery tech as the R2. I get it not being on your radar, but by that same logic, the R2 might as well be DOA.

Agreed with everything else you said though. I view Rivian and BMW very favorably. Recent Tesla owner as well since my wife recently has one. Love having options and glad that competition is finally forcing the market to be get good. Great time to be car shopping. I just want to test drive these already! Will be the ultimate deciding factor for me as the charging speeds and range of where these are at aren't going to make it or break it.
 

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I haven't reserved an iX3 yet, but will probably put in an order later today. I'll keep the R2 and iX3 reservations until the R2 final configurator is released, but it is frustrating to not know the final prices. I also have no idea if I'll be able to get a launch edition or not.

If a launch edition R2 ends up being in the mid $60s with a preferred color, wheels, and other possible options, we will probably get the iX3.
I just put my $1k down. Unless the Rivian comes in way cheaper we will get the iX3. The wife and kid likes the BMW more, so you know how these things go


Then that person has never bought a car - there's always a delivery fee attached to any vehicle sale, even if you happen to pick up the vehicle from the factory that it's made in (or the port that it arrives at if it's an import).
Yeah or never bought a vehicle directly from the manufacturer before or is unfamiliar with the Rivian process. Which there are probably a lot of unfamiliar people with the process as there are about to be a lot of new Rivian owners
 

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The Model Y has similar charging speeds and battery tech as the R2. I get it not being on your radar, but by that same logic, the R2 might as well be DOA.

Agreed with everything else you said though. I view Rivian and BMW very favorably. Recent Tesla owner as well since my wife recently has one. Love having options and glad that competition is finally forcing the market to be get good. Great time to be car shopping. I just want to test drive these already! Will be the ultimate deciding factor for me as the charging speeds and range of where these are at aren't going to make it or break it.
The battery tech and charging speeds of the R2 are my biggest concern honestly. Outside of that, I really like the R2 look, design, interior, etc. We have been very happy with our R1S outside of the few complaints I mentioned before, and generally, I would be happy to lease another Rivian. I also reserved the R2 a long time ago, when the iX3 wasn't even a possibility. So the recent release of the iX3 really changes things for us.
 

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There is still a huge performance discrepancy between the R2 Performance and the mid $60k BMW. Lets see BMW's offering with the same performance before we start comparing these two very different vehicles.
I like performance as much as the next person but it is only one aspect of the vehicle and if range, charging speed, additional color choices (interior and exterior), servicing availability and probably quality matter to you more than zero to sixty then I can see why people could migrate over to the iX3
 

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The battery tech and charging speeds of the R2 are my biggest concern honestly. Outside of that, I really like the R2 look, design, interior, etc. We have been very happy with our R1S outside of the few complaints I mentioned before, and generally, I would be happy to lease another Rivian. I also reserved the R2 a long time ago, when the iX3 wasn't even a possibility. So the recent release of the iX3 really changes things for us.
This is exactly where I am. I am so incredibly disappointed that Rivian decided to embrace ten-year-old powertrain architecture. Everyone in the world are leaning forward into 800V+ (heck the Chinese are leaning into megawatt charging in the entry models) and Rivian decided to bet the entire company's future on leaning backwards to 2018 Tesla. I genuinely like so much about the R2, but I cannot deal with that combination of range and charging. Maybe if they offered a slow charging max pack like our R1S I might rethink, or a fast charging medium range pack like Hyundai might even get me to rethink (and I would happily pay an extra $10k for an 800V 110kwh real competitor!) but sadly I am not buying something in 2027 that has less real range and charging speed than the 2019 model Y.
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