Sponsored

Jiri

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jiri
Joined
Mar 28, 2022
Threads
14
Messages
85
Reaction score
197
Location
Washington, DC
Vehicles
R1T, 1983 Defender, 1999 Defender, Tesla Model 3
Hey all. So keeping myself honest. And letting you know about a fun little experiment.
Sidebar: 600 miles put on the truck last few days. And I truly feel so far it’s the best vehicle I have owned. And sadly, or fortunate to do so, have been able to own quite a few. (Sport sedans, Defenders, Land Rover LR4s, Land Cruiser, G wagon etc.)

anyway … since I am traveling for a few days, I intentionally left the truck outside in DC to test parasite drain. Not plugged in, of course. This is the app reading for the battery when I left it. Temps in 50s day time and 30s and 40s night time. Rain next two days. Gear guard on. Snapshot at departure and second snapshot after 36 hour (night time - reason I say that is that it does creep up a few miles when it warms back up daytime).

I will post more updates here every day for next couple of days. Departure shot was 13:00 on a sunny day about 55-60 degrees and shot after the truck ran for about 25 miles.

departure:

Rivian R1T R1S Standby test for parasitic loss while R1T unused and unplugged 31348A55-C2DD-4EF6-A7F0-19EE046A0945


After 36 hours of the truck sitting during second night, just under 50 degrees early evening:

Rivian R1T R1S Standby test for parasitic loss while R1T unused and unplugged 8D9AEE37-4A23-45CF-9FF9-6471EE96F8B3
Sponsored

 

KurtP

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 23, 2021
Threads
10
Messages
72
Reaction score
135
Location
Philadelphia
Vehicles
BMW X5
Thanks for doing this test. I Can't wait for your final results.

Hopefully Rivian is tracking/investigating this (potential) issue as well.
 

skyote

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 12, 2019
Threads
55
Messages
2,726
Reaction score
5,651
Location
Austin, TX
Vehicles
Jeeps, 2500HD Duramax, R1S Preorder (Dec 2018)
Following, love the test!
 

BoltEVowner

Well-Known Member
First Name
Charles
Joined
Dec 6, 2020
Threads
4
Messages
335
Reaction score
400
Location
West Georgia, dangerously close to Alabama
Vehicles
Chevy Bolt EUV, Chevy Volt, RAV4, Winnebago, R1T
Occupation
retired physician
Really concerning...doesn't happen in my Chevy Bolt EV.
 

Sponsored

OP
OP
Jiri

Jiri

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jiri
Joined
Mar 28, 2022
Threads
14
Messages
85
Reaction score
197
Location
Washington, DC
Vehicles
R1T, 1983 Defender, 1999 Defender, Tesla Model 3
Doesn’t worry me too much yet. And likely just needs some optimization on what’s running in the background. I am going to do this again in a week or two after I get home with gearguard off. Maybe those sensors and cameras drain good bit.
 

r1t_kev

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
236
Reaction score
748
Location
PA, USA
Vehicles
Subaru Crosstrek
Really concerning...doesn't happen in my Chevy Bolt EV.

I'm new to this, so forgive me, but how is it "bad" to use 6% battery in 2 days time, in cooler temps, with 24/7 video monitoring on? That seems reasonable to me. I mean the truck is off, but it's not sleeping. Other than geeking out over conserving every SOC %, I don't see a problem with the result.

Kudos for the test.
 

moosetags

Well-Known Member
First Name
SuEllyn & Brian
Joined
Dec 25, 2021
Threads
110
Messages
1,940
Reaction score
3,219
Location
Santa Rosa Beach, Florida
Vehicles
2023 R1T; 2020 Chevy Duramax; 1956 Ford Tbird
Occupation
Retired
Clubs
 
Yes, thank you for the test information. We all need to know these things.

Brian
 

zefram47

Well-Known Member
First Name
Aaron
Joined
Feb 6, 2022
Threads
18
Messages
2,751
Reaction score
4,515
Location
Denver, CO
Vehicles
Rivian R1T, Alfa Romeo 4C
Occupation
Software Engineer
I'm new to this, so forgive me, but how is it "bad" to use 6% battery in 2 days time, in cooler temps, with 24/7 video monitoring on?
Just remember, 6% is 8 kWh. That's not a small amount. Posted elsewhere, but my MINI sat at the airport for a hair over 3 days and used 1% of a 32.6 kWh pack, or 0.3 kWh. Obviously it wasn't doing video surveillance, but 6% is excessive for 2 days.
 

Attesan997

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 2, 2021
Threads
9
Messages
582
Reaction score
751
Location
NJ
Vehicles
R1T
I'm new to this, so forgive me, but how is it "bad" to use 6% battery in 2 days time, in cooler temps, with 24/7 video monitoring on? That seems reasonable to me. I mean the truck is off, but it's not sleeping. Other than geeking out over conserving every SOC %, I don't see a problem with the result.

Kudos for the test.
Agree. From what I remember, and its been a while, Sentry mode uses about 5% on average per day when its active. Obviously quite a few variables in that but that was the baseline I recall. And this assumes its not being triggered constantly. I'm sure more optimization needs to be done but I'd assume Gear Guard would be about the same.
 

Sponsored

ironpig

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 19, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
2,105
Reaction score
3,557
Location
Los Angeles, CA
Vehicles
2022 R1T LE, 2015 4Runner, 1975 FJ55 Land Cruiser
Just remember, 6% is 8 kWh. That's not a small amount. Posted elsewhere, but my MINI sat at the airport for a hair over 3 days and used 1% of a 32.6 kWh pack, or 0.3 kWh. Obviously it wasn't doing video surveillance, but 6% is excessive for 2 days.
My Tesla doesn't have Sentry mode, but a quick google search says that it uses about 6-7% of battery a day when left on and parked (a little over 5kWh per day). So this seems to be within the same range minus some optimization.
 

r1t_kev

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 2, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
236
Reaction score
748
Location
PA, USA
Vehicles
Subaru Crosstrek
Just remember, 6% is 8 kWh. That's not a small amount. Posted elsewhere, but my MINI sat at the airport for a hair over 3 days and used 1% of a 32.6 kWh pack, or 0.3 kWh. Obviously it wasn't doing video surveillance, but 6% is excessive for 2 days.
Ok, fair. By the same token, wouldn't BMS take more energy to maintain a bigger battery too? Not being argumentative - I'm genuinely asking. What is reasonable to expect, that makes this performance excessive?

I realize efficiency is a priority and I guess this sounds inefficient compared to some other vehicles, but I'm having trouble making the leap to it being worrisome. If it's using ~ 3% per day, even starting with 68% would give 3 weeks of unplugged storage before the truck is dead, everything being equal.
 

jjswan33

Well-Known Member
First Name
Joshua
Joined
Sep 17, 2021
Threads
135
Messages
4,455
Reaction score
9,877
Location
Sandy, OR
Vehicles
Rivian R1T LE, Hyundai Ioniq 5 Limited
Occupation
Engineer
Clubs
 
Just remember, 6% is 8 kWh. That's not a small amount. Posted elsewhere, but my MINI sat at the airport for a hair over 3 days and used 1% of a 32.6 kWh pack, or 0.3 kWh. Obviously it wasn't doing video surveillance, but 6% is excessive for 2 days.
Yeah, this 100%. 8kWh over 48 hours is a 166W drain.

This isn’t much worse than what I was getting sitting in my garage over a 31 hour test I posted on another thread the other day (~150W). With PAAK off to avoid waking my truck many times during the day I was still getting ~100W of average draw. At the same time my EV6 has been sitting for nearly a week now and I have loss <1kWh of battery.
 

AdamsFan1983

Well-Known Member
First Name
Silence Dogood
Joined
Jun 22, 2021
Threads
73
Messages
1,063
Reaction score
3,821
Location
Pennsylvania
Vehicles
Rivian R1T LE in GW
Occupation
Public Relations
Any chance the telemetry uploads Rivian pulls are involved in the level of drain as well? Maybe?
Sponsored

 
 








Top