Chevy looking like a trail boss

[Longhorngary]

I suppose, but the guys at
Enterprise kept saying it was a $100,000 truck.

When I couldn't figure out how to raise the seat I went back inside to ask them. They came out to try and figure it out while I was looking up how to do it online. Which is when I came across the booster seat solution.

But I digress, if it really is a $100,000 truck, then it's an apples to apples comparison. Perhaps those employees didn't know how much this base level one actually cost.

The work truck i's not a $100k truck. Hell the Denali trim is a $100k msrp and can be easily had in the high 80Ks.

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[seanocono]

Try actually driving a Silverado EV. I had to take my R1T into the service center and got a Silverado EV as a rental.... in short, I could NOT WAIT to get my truck back.

The Silverado EV has terrible sight lines-- you can't see out very well. It was sluggish. The DRIVER'S SEAT DID NOT MOVE UP OR DOWN. If you are too short too look out-- too bad. A drivers sear that can adjust up and down is an OPTION. For those without that option-- you can buy an AFTERMARKET BOOSTER SEAT! Imagine being a TRAIL BOSS who uses a BOOSTER SEAT.

The interior was very plastic and cheap, with tiny cup holders. The UI was atrocious and had very limited function, with things buried multiple menus deep. The doors are big, heavy, and annoying.

Everything "not on paper" about that truck was just... off.

R1T wins all day!

You drove a bone stock, base work truck with a base price that’s $15K less than a base R1T.

I agree the interiors of the base Silverado EV work trucks are awful, but your post is still misleading.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I miss my R1T. This is after putting my Sierra EV up on the spare leveling blocks I had.

 

[Longhorngary]

I miss my R1T. This is after putting my Sierra EV up on the spare leveling blocks I had.

because the Sierra EV won't self level?

It looks like you were able to carry a lot more things in the bed than would have fit in the R1T so maybe that helps offset.

 

[Dark-Fx]

because the Sierra EV won't self level?

It looks like you were able to carry a lot more things in the bed than would have fit in the R1T so maybe that helps offset.

Yeah, GM doesn't seem to be as interested in making useful features. A big part of the bed is used up by the spare unfortunately. Wondering if they figured out how to put the trailboss tires under like the work truck.

 

[Longhorngary]

Yeah, GM doesn't seem to be as interested in making useful features. A big part of the bed is used up by the spare unfortunately. Wondering if they figured out how to put the trailboss tires under like the work truck.

I don't see why not, I thought it was just the 24s that kept the GMC from having a spare underneath.

 

[Dark-Fx]

I don't see why not, I thought it was just the 24s that kept the GMC from having a spare underneath.

The 24's are a 35" tire, just like the trailboss. Work truck has 33s on it.

 

[Longhorngary]

The 24's are a 35" tire, just like the trailboss. Work truck has 33s on it.

Just curious why you just didn't but a work truck wheel/tire just to serve as the spare in an emergency and keep it underneath or is there no room with the max battery pack?

 

[mkhuffman]

I think it is totally necesssary. More range = more freedom, more flexibility, less stress, more options. More everything. Poor range is the biggest roadblock to EV adoption, and super long range BEVs are what is needed to make ICEVs obsolete.

And it is one of the biggest reasons I traded in my Mach-e for my R1T. If my Mach-e was able to go 400 miles (EPA) on a full charge, I would have held on to it for longer. For sure. Yes, I love my T and the unique capabilities it provides. But that would not have been enough to make the switch when I did.

It blows my mind how much less stress it is to drive my R1T on long trips, or even shorter trips. It requires much less planning, and much less time charging (because I often don't need to charge when I did before). It is game changing.

It is definitely reasonable and necessary to want more range.

 

[Longhorngary]

Rivian's biggest achilles heel is the need for a faster charging curve even moreso over more range. If the R1T had faster charging, I'd already be an owner. Instead, I'm still weighing it vs the upcoming Sierra EV AT4

 

[sub]

Putting more batteries for range is kinda cheating. Show us your miles/kwh!

When towing, putting more batteries in the vehicle is the only solution. When 2kwh is going to the trailer for every 1kwh going to the truck, the efficiency of the truck is essentially irrelevant. Doubling the efficiency of the truck would only increase range by 20%. No one is going to double the efficiency of the truck, and a 20% improvement in range is not nearly enough. The only solution is more battery.

With my 135kw battery pack, I only get about 70 miles between charging stops when towing my boat and I often have to stop well before the 70 mile mark when the next charger is too far away to skip this one. With 30 minutes of charging for each hour of driving the 800 mile road trip that I take several times a year that is an easy 1 day drive without the trailer (or in an ICE truck) takes every bit of 2 days with the boat.

I bet with the Chevy's 200kw pack I could cut the number of charging stops in half. It still wouldn't be fun, but it would be significantly less awful.

 

[VandalSibs]

When towing, putting more batteries in the vehicle is the only solution. When 2kwh is going to the trailer for every 1kwh going to the truck, the efficiency of the truck is essentially irrelevant. Doubling the efficiency of the truck would only increase range by 20%. No one is going to double the efficiency of the truck, and a 20% improvement in range is not nearly enough. The only solution is more battery.

With my 135kw battery pack, I only get about 70 miles between charging stops when towing my boat and I often have to stop well before the 70 mile mark when the next charger is too far away to skip this one. With 30 minutes of charging for each hour of driving the 800 mile road trip that I take several times a year that is an easy 1 day drive without the trailer (or in and ICE truck) takes every bit of 2 days with the boat.

I bet with the Chevy's 200kw pack I could cut the number of charging stops in half. It still wouldn't be fun, but it would be significantly less awful.

What speeds are you doing to get that kind of efficiency when towing? I have a relatively brick-shaped camper (it's got some aerodynamic elements to it, but it's still more brick-like than not), and I can get 140-170 miles doing 60 mph, and would get close to 200 if I slow down even 5 mph.

 

[sub]

What speeds are you doing to get that kind of efficiency when towing? I have a relatively brick-shaped camper (it's got some aerodynamic elements to it, but it's still more brick-like than not), and I can get 140-170 miles doing 60 mph, and would get close to 200 if I slow down even 5 mph.

I drive the speed limit. So between 55 and 75 depending on where I am.

135*.7*.77 = 72 miles for a 80% to 10% cycle.

The fact that it is substantially taller and wider than the truck doesn't help things but it isn't going to be getting smaller. Actually the next one will probably be bigger.

 

[Epicloop]

The range increase from my 135kw pack or even the MP is not modest, & 14kw is not worth trading up for.
The 70mph range tests have shown 26% range increae for the Silverado vs the Rivian(max) & even more so while towing. This does not even take into consideration the charging curve.
One more module of 15kw would only weigh 195lbs, two would be 390 for a 10-20% range improvement to nearly rival the RSt. No need for it to weigh an extra 2000lbs.
Both the CT & Lightning weigh less then the R1T, If their battery was the same size they would still weigh less.
There may be room for some weight savings in other areas to compensate while still improving on the range for truck use applications.
A 165-180kwh pack would capture a larger adventure/truck buyer audience, not to mention usefullnesd for off grid applications.
Me & some buddies did a road trip with my V-nose 7x14 (6'ceiling) cargo trailer, I would not even consider my truck for the application.
For my applications I could use a larger pack.

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