dual motor performance, sport setting does not stick?

[sub]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46228137/rivian-r1t-performance-quicker-acceleration-tested/

You must consciously select Sport when you want the extra sauce, because it resets to All-Purpose every time you exit the truck. That's done for a good reason

Is this true? If so I would find that hugely annoying since my quad is in sport+lowest 100% of the time. Not only the lack of acceleration, having the suspension rise up every time I parked would get old fast. Anti-kneel mode?

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[COdogman]

If true that seems weird and unnecessary.

 

[VSG]

That's not how my R1T works.

 

[sub]

And if that is not true, it makes me wonder if they asked Rivian to fact check anything they wrote.

Is the entire premise of the article based on an assumption not verified by Rivian? Is all purpose mode on the dual truly 100% identical to all-purpose mode on a dual performance?

I assumed they must have got that information from Rivian, but I would also assume that if you are in communication with Rivian and you would have them fact to check your story before publishing.

We were able to make a comparison between the two powertrains using a single Performance-spec R1T for the same reason that the regular R1T Dual-Motor model and the Performance-equipped version have identical EPA ratings: A Performance model tested in the default All-Purpose mode performs identically to a regular dual-motor truck in the same mode. With the Performance upgrade, the added software and drive modes don't weigh anything, but they do unleash extra performance when the driver selects Sport mode. Our comparison was as simple as running our acceleration tests once in All-Purpose mode, then a second time in Sport mode.

 

[sub]

That's not how my R1T works.

Do you have a dual performance?

 

[VSG]

No, as you can see from my sig. But it's relevant because the software is shared, so if the Dual motor Performance didn't retain its drive mode settings, unlike the Quad motor, it would have to have been something that Rivian changed intentionally. And if there were an intentional reason for doing that why wouldn't that reason also apply to the Quad motor?

Regardless, no one else is saying the drive modes reset when you get out of the vehicle, and these have been shipping for like 6 months now. So maybe there's a chance C&D got something wrong?

 

[sub]

No, as you can see from my sig.

I can see other people's signature but not yours. I had no idea if you had a dual performance or not.

 

[VSG]

Yeah, use of "sig" to include my vehicle information (as well as other information that shows up under my name) may not have been the best choice on my part. Maybe I should have said profile, but that implies to me that you would have to click through to see my details, and I was specifically referring to the information that shows up on every post under my name.

And you seem to be viewing from a phone, which apparently hides some of this information because of limited screen space.

 

[Dark-Fx]

It's EPA related garbage. Rivian has to run the tests in the least economical mode you can leave the vehicle in. Thus to maximize the rating, they reset the mode.

My Fisker Ocean resets to "Earth" mode (FWD until you really give 'er the beans) every drive cycle and it's really annoying. Glad my R1 quads don't do this because sport was part of the EPA numbers.

 

[R1Tom]

No, as you can see from my sig. But it's relevant because the software is shared, so if the Dual motor Performance didn't retain its drive mode settings, unlike the Quad motor, it would have to have been something that Rivian changed intentionally. And if there were an intentional reason for doing that why wouldn't that reason also apply to the Quad motor?

Regardless, no one else is saying the drive modes reset when you get out of the vehicle, and these have been shipping for like 6 months now. So maybe there's a chance C&D got something wrong?

Edit....all below speculation was based on errant facts in C&D article. It has been confirmed DM stays in Sport. So all below is worthless.... End edit....

I am guessing here but....

The QM appears to have some limitation that prevents on the fly disconnect changes on an as needed basis like the DM, so it was epa rated in all wheel drive. So no need to make a change since it was rated....with all 4 motors spinning....all the time. Also since it can't be automatic in engagement and disengagement, my guess the power and torque numbers of the QM might not be as simply stated without an astrick disclosure that default mode has half the available power, if it were to default to conserve.

But...the DM has the added capability of on the fly engagement and disengagement...if in All Purpose mode....but not in sport. So epa says must be default setting, so since DM sport probably has alot closer to same efficiency to QM, Rivian picked up the added marketing angle of greater range, which mostly comes from the fact ot was rated in front wheel drive. But power can be stated as full DM engagement, since it can bring the rear motor online automatically.

If they allowed the DM to stay in Sport, EPA would require the range to be done in that mode, and in that mode...probably alot closer to range of QM in all purpose.

At least that is my guess/theory.

 

[dleepnw]

not sure why you are trying to make this into a big deal since it sounds like you have the quad. just because they share some base software doesn't mean there's any relation between quad/dual with wrt this. making something out of nothing.

and are we sure this is even true? maybe someone with a dual motor can chime in.

 

[VSG]

*I* am not trying to make it a big deal. All I said is "That's not how my R1T works."

 

[Magicbus]

I do have a dual performance R1T and I will test this today.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

That sucks, but it's not completely unheard of. I just took delivery of my wife's new i4 M50 and it does the same thing. Sport mode resets itself every time you get out of the car.

 

[R1Tom]

That sucks, but it's not completely unheard of. I just took delivery of my wife's new i4 M50 and it does the same thing. Sport mode resets itself every time you get out of the car.

Edit...DM is confirmed to stay in Sport thru driving cycles. All Below is meaningless as the Rivian DM behaves the way I would want (and I suspect most would want) per a DM Perf owner who tested....CD article has errant fact/s. End Edit....

I guess it's like the auto start stop feature that I bought an aftermarket tuner to turn off in Jeeps. One of pluses of a manual transmission ICE car too....no auto start/stop.

Maybe someday people will be able to get at these types of things in the setting somewhere and defeat them.

If I had a DM, I would certainly want it to stay in DM mode all the time and not always default to FWD.

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