Sponsored

domoplaytime

Well-Known Member
First Name
Robert
Joined
Jun 29, 2022
Threads
24
Messages
500
Reaction score
773
Location
Maui
Vehicles
2022 R1T Adventure
Clubs
 
Why don’t you like it on the windshield if I may ask?
Applications like RainX seem to fog the windshield under heavy wiper use. Some people really like driving with no wipers, with the rain beading and falling off. I suspect these are the same people who never keep their sunglasses clean. I want a clear view when I drive.
Sponsored

 
Last edited:
OP
OP

bjcleaver

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
118
Reaction score
156
Location
Utah
Vehicles
Bronco FE, Tesla Model Y, R1T
Took mine on a hunting trip in MT the past 5 days. General observations:
  • Performed well from a handling standpoint on snow covered roads - both highways and dirt roads.
  • Sensor get blocked with crud really easily to where highway assist and even adaptive cruise won’t work.
  • Range seemed to hold up well in 20-30 degree temps.
  • Windshield washer is a bit flaky as it spray only on the bottom portion of the windshield
  • I was out in a rain to sleet to snow transition and door handles got iced up quickly and would not retract. Didn’t affect whether I could drive it, but cleaning out the ice inside the door handles so they would close was not easy.
  • I was supper concerned with the tonneau, so cleared all ice/snow before opening it. Took few attempts, but it eventually opened all the way.
  • Frunk opened OK, but I can see this being an issue if the button is iced over.
  • Gear tunnel functioned OK, but again the buttons are prone to ice snow buildup and doors are sluggish to open.
  • Similar concerns with charge port door. Again, it functioned for me in marginal conditions, but I can see situations where it would not function
So bottom line for me is the truck performed quite well, but I have concerns with whether some of the gimmicky electronic gadgetry is really well adapted to severe environmental and off-road conditions.

Apologies in advance if anyone takes offense to the pic.

747FF89D-95F6-4CC1-8CEF-B5DA6D785EF4.jpeg
I have many of the same concerns about the buttons and door handles and ice/snow. Maybe for version 2 of the truck they can add some heat to these areas to keep things clean? As long as I can get in the truck I can at least open those things from the screen. Small concerns in the scheme or things.
 
OP
OP

bjcleaver

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jan 30, 2021
Threads
3
Messages
118
Reaction score
156
Location
Utah
Vehicles
Bronco FE, Tesla Model Y, R1T
I’m thinking I just won’t drive my R1S without winter tires or at a minimum the Michelin CrossClimate2. My Tesla was a death trap without the Cross Climates. First winter with heavy heavy snow and it was sliding and had hard times turning.. it was lame because my Ascent, Bronco and Raptor handle the snow so well no matter the conditions. I put the CrossClimate2s on the Tesla Model S and it’s been a tank on any snowy drive. I’m just not gonna trust Rivian quite yet with this regard.. but if a snow mode changes things.. we’ll see.. would rather not risk it. Tires make the difference and with all this power and torque, I’d rather have the right shoes for the conditions whereas in my Ascent I could have bald tires with no tread left and still make it through 3 feet of snow.. but I’m not able to go to 60 in 3 seconds with it either.
Which size wheels did you order for the R1S? Nothing beats a winter tire but I’d feel better about the OEM 20s than I would the 21s or 22s. The 20s are at least severe snow service rated which is why I’m giving them a shot.
 

Headingley

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jason
Joined
Nov 12, 2020
Threads
3
Messages
65
Reaction score
73
Location
Winnipeg
Vehicles
X5 35d
Occupation
Surgeon
Braking is good but the regen is likely too strong which can cause it to lock up just a bit and skid. Again, I'll get used to it and a quick touch of the throttle clears it up. But it would be great to have a Low and/or Off setting for the regen, or just a dedicated snow mode that truly optimizes for the conditions. My wife got a Model Y a few weeks before my R1T arrived and I saw that you can dial down the regen on that.
This has me a bit concerned. I live in a place where the roads are covered with ice throughout winter. Regen braking causing skidding could be dangerous. Having said that I have never driven an EV so not sure if this is something that will be easily/safely compensated for by driving technique. I look forward to more comments about winter driving...
 

MoreTrout

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jay
Joined
Sep 12, 2021
Threads
19
Messages
554
Reaction score
844
Location
PA
Vehicles
Ford Fusion Hybrid, Rivian R1T
Occupation
Retired USN
Took mine on a hunting trip in MT the past 5 days. General observations:
  • Performed well from a handling standpoint on snow covered roads - both highways and dirt roads.
  • Sensor get blocked with crud really easily to where highway assist and even adaptive cruise won’t work.
  • Range seemed to hold up well in 20-30 degree temps.
  • Windshield washer is a bit flaky as it spray only on the bottom portion of the windshield
  • I was out in a rain to sleet to snow transition and door handles got iced up quickly and would not retract. Didn’t affect whether I could drive it, but cleaning out the ice inside the door handles so they would close was not easy.
  • I was supper concerned with the tonneau, so cleared all ice/snow before opening it. Took few attempts, but it eventually opened all the way.
  • Frunk opened OK, but I can see this being an issue if the button is iced over.
  • Gear tunnel functioned OK, but again the buttons are prone to ice snow buildup and doors are sluggish to open.
  • Similar concerns with charge port door. Again, it functioned for me in marginal conditions, but I can see situations where it would not function
So bottom line for me is the truck performed quite well, but I have concerns with whether some of the gimmicky electronic gadgetry is really well adapted to severe environmental and off-road conditions.

Apologies in advance if anyone takes offense to the pic.
Thanks. I have more concerns about door handles/gear tunnel/frunk/tonneau/headlights than the tires on snow. I have enough respect for snowy conditions and experience driving on it. I can usually wait for the snowplows to solve the majority of the challenge of driving. Hunting season is the exception as I'll go where there are no plows or pavement, but know the areas pretty well. Might have to keep an old hair dryer and extension cord under the back seat if we get a good ice storm. I have had ice on traditional door handles and doors themselves that made doors impossible to open, so not sure if the retractable handles are actually that much worse.

Nice mulies. Bear and deer season just around the corner. I have a hitch rack that converts to a wheeled hauler. The wheels can store on the hitch itself, but I could never do it with my old Escape because it was too low. Be nice to use it with a vehicle with enough ground clearance. Just hope this year it actually comes off the truck instead of driving around empty all season like last year. :)
 

Sponsored

DTown3011

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jun 7, 2022
Threads
30
Messages
1,719
Reaction score
2,257
Location
Denver, CO
Vehicles
Rivian R1T
Will be following this thread and thanks for the info. I live in Colorado and currently drive a Tesla Model 3 which has performed well in winter driving conditions, but we have a Ford Explorer with Blizzak snow tires that we use for mountain trips, skiing excursions, etc. I don't plan on putting winter tires on the Rivian once it comes, but could change my mind of course. It is interesting that the gear tunnel, frunk, handles, etc. all had some issues which I didn't think about. Maybe switching to the manual tonneau is a good thing!

Here are the tires I would do:

Blizzak DM V2 Tire | Bridgestone Winter Tires for Snow & Ice (bridgestonetire.com)
 

atebit

Well-Known Member
First Name
Bob
Joined
May 3, 2022
Threads
49
Messages
1,448
Reaction score
1,692
Location
PA
Vehicles
R1T, Porsche Boxster
Clubs
 
I wonder if some tube sand over the axle in the bed would help with the rear end breaking loose? Not sure if a few hundred pounds will make a difference with this truck though.
 

Ravenron

Well-Known Member
First Name
James
Joined
Oct 24, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
359
Reaction score
431
Location
Colorado
Vehicles
2022 Rivian R1T, 2020 Jeep Gladiator Mojave
Occupation
Engineer/Retired Military
Great thread and thanks to the OP for getting this started. I'm expecting to have issues here in Colorado as I'm running the 22" wheel/tire combo (had ordered the 20" combo but the Shop had a truck with everything on my config except the tires, so here we are). In the light snow we had yesterday in Colorado Springs, the roads were just wet but I did notice my headlights were completely covered - this was during the day, so minimal impact but night would be a different issue. I'll try some of the glass application products mentioned above but see this could be a significant problem. I don't expect any OTA improvements to address this...any other solutions/advice appreciated...
 

zefram47

Well-Known Member
First Name
Aaron
Joined
Feb 6, 2022
Threads
18
Messages
2,768
Reaction score
4,556
Location
Denver, CO
Vehicles
Rivian R1T, Alfa Romeo 4C
Occupation
Software Engineer
I wonder if some tube sand over the axle in the bed would help with the rear end breaking loose? Not sure if a few hundred pounds will make a difference with this truck though.
The weight distribution on a Rivian is far different from an ICE pickup where there's no weight over the rear axle. While I can't find published numbers, with the large/heavy battery pack low and in between the front/rear, the R1 ought to be far closer to 50/50 than an ICE pickup/SUV. So adding sand likely would make next to no difference. In any vehicle the majority of your braking actually comes from the front wheels due to weight transfer. As weight transfers to the front, the rear gets lighter and has less traction/grip as a result. But on a slick surface you're not going to be able to brake hard enough before sliding for that weight transfer to become relevant. Anyone who's ridden a bicycle or motorcycle with independent brake levers knows how this works in practice.
 

johnjohn

Well-Known Member
Joined
May 27, 2020
Threads
1
Messages
122
Reaction score
189
Location
Los Angeles
Vehicles
Rivian R1T
Occupation
IG: thegreenmachine_R1T
Clubs
 
  • Braking is good but the regen is likely too strong which can cause it to lock up just a bit and skid. Again, I'll get used to it and a quick touch of the throttle clears it up. But it would be great to have a Low and/or Off setting for the regen, or just a dedicated snow mode that truly optimizes for the conditions. My wife got a Model Y a few weeks before my R1T arrived and I saw that you can dial down the regen on that.
Thanks for sharing your experience.

What setting do you have your regen set at? High or standard?
 

Sponsored

Gshenderson

Well-Known Member
First Name
Greg
Joined
Sep 28, 2019
Threads
13
Messages
1,229
Reaction score
2,777
Location
Park City, UT / Kemmerer, WY
Vehicles
2015 Tesla S 85D, 2019 4Runner TRD Offroad, R1T
Thanks for sharing your experience.

What setting do you have your regen set at? High or standard?
I switched mine from High to Standard when descending steep snow covered dirt roads with lots of switchbacks. Standard allowed me to better control the amount of regen resistance via feathering the throttle. In High it was over responsive to small changes in throttle pressure and caused some wheel lock and sliding. I really like how regen works on slippery roads though - similar to down-shifting an ICE, but with more control.
 

crashmtb

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 11, 2021
Threads
1
Messages
4,725
Reaction score
7,239
Location
Man oh Manitoba
Vehicles
2002 aluminium garden shed TD5
This has me a bit concerned. I live in a place where the roads are covered with ice throughout winter. Regen braking causing skidding could be dangerous. Having said that I have never driven an EV so not sure if this is something that will be easily/safely compensated for by driving technique. I look forward to more comments about winter driving...
Where you might take your foot off the throttle entirely in a gas car, with strong regen you instead have to modulate the accelerator. It’s more intuitive if you’re used to driving vehicles with manual transmissions.
 

zipzag

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 15, 2021
Threads
15
Messages
1,088
Reaction score
983
Location
Chicago
Vehicles
Model Y
I think it's only a matter of time before they implement it and make more improvements for cold weather use. With all of the employees that are working on the software stack, I have a feeling at least a few of them have their own ideas of features that need to get implemented, they just need permission to do it. Rivian has been amazing at listening to their customer base about feedback for software changes.
Its probably possible to implement charge before leave through the API, although Rivian will likely implement preconditioning soon. If the developers lived in Minnesota it would already be done.

It took Tesla a long time to take cold weather issues seriously. These companies do PR about testing in Alaska but that doesn't necessarily mean that the engineers/developers spend enough time on the issues.

Until recently Tesla did things in winter like blow cold air out the front vents and stop heating with the doors open. This happens when the people in charge don't live in winter climates.
 

crashmtb

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 11, 2021
Threads
1
Messages
4,725
Reaction score
7,239
Location
Man oh Manitoba
Vehicles
2002 aluminium garden shed TD5
I’m thinking I just won’t drive my R1S without winter tires or at a minimum the Michelin CrossClimate2. My Tesla was a death trap without the Cross Climates. First winter with heavy heavy snow and it was sliding and had hard times turning.. it was lame because my Ascent, Bronco and Raptor handle the snow so well no matter the conditions. I put the CrossClimate2s on the Tesla Model S and it’s been a tank on any snowy drive. I’m just not gonna trust Rivian quite yet with this regard.. but if a snow mode changes things.. we’ll see.. would rather not risk it. Tires make the difference and with all this power and torque, I’d rather have the right shoes for the conditions whereas in my Ascent I could have bald tires with no tread left and still make it through 3 feet of snow.. but I’m not able to go to 60 in 3 seconds with it either.
If your R1S has 20” AT it’ll be fine. The other tire options are typical all seasons obviously.
 

IrishDawg

Member
First Name
Josh
Joined
Mar 9, 2022
Threads
0
Messages
16
Reaction score
15
Location
98117
Vehicles
Volvo XC90; Model 3 DM; R1T awaiting delivery
Occupation
Lawyer
One quirk I noticed with the HVAC screen - I have it set to 68° and it shows snowflake icons over the vents even when it's blowing hot air. If I bump it up to 72° the icons change to heat. Are the icons based on temperature and not on what the system is actually outputting?
I noticed the same thing. We just got cold enough in Seattle to need heat vs AC so I wasn't sure if it was a change with the recent software update or the way it's always been but I just haven't seen heat turn on yet.
Sponsored

 
 








Top