Max Pack delayed to 2024 according to configurator / email ?

[Marmaduke]

While nothing is certain, I think Rivian may have more an obligation to the pre-orders than you might believe. They would not engage in this dance otherwise… by capitulating in March, sending out the $100 “binding” contracts.. I think the matter more complicated.. which makes their strategy make more sense.. IMHO, anyway.

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[crashmtb]

Rivian team doing happy dance!! One less sale at a loss, " it's working boss, they dropping like flies"

Don't need to worry about customer retention when you've got all that IPO money covering your eyes and plugging your ears.

 

[Riviandog]

Tank turn & electrochromatic glass roof

One if these youtubers needs to do a piece on this excellent summary of the "fleecing of the R1T"

 

[intimidator]

Thanks, but there is NO FREAKING NEW ENGINEERING NEEDED for the MAX PACK,
all Rivian has to do, IT PRODUCE THE DAMN MAX PACK....!!!!

I agree. Just build it. Now. I am waiting...

 

[Riviandog]

Rivian, RJ- PLEASE QUIT WITH THE GAMES... people have been waiting years for your claims. JUST Deliver and move on.

 

[ads75]

I pre-ordered the Cybertruck Dec. 1, 2019. Tesla stated the Cybertruck will have 500+ MILES. Inside info has stated the Cybertruck may be available with 610 miles range...!!!
And Rivian CANNOT EVEN MAKE A 400 MILE+ MAX PACK...
....... I'M REALLY PISSED...!!!.......

It’s hilarious that people are complaining there is no max pack yet, and using the theoretical Cybertruck as a comparison, which isn’t even being produced. Just go ahead and make more imaginary claims.

 

[R1Sky Business]

One if these youtubers needs to do a piece on this excellent summary of the "fleecing of the R1T"

Kyle....are u there

 

[mini2nut]

Rivian’s leadership must do cartwheels every time Cybertruck production gets delayed.

 

[BrentInCO]

On the bright side, there's ASCII art Easter Eggs for Halloween.

This is the skeleton R1 after they deleted the:

• 180 degree tailgate
• tie-down hooks
• lidar
• power tonneau
• kitchen
• shuttle
• frunk shrunk
• max pack
• tank turn mode
• electrochromatic roof

Don’t forget:
T-Top (removable roof panels)
5-seat R1S

 

[zefram47]

Most likely because they can make 3 large packs from the cells it takes to make to make 2 max packs. Every EV manufacturer is in some way, shape or form is cell constrained at this time so they're likely trying to make as many vehicles as they can with the limited amount of cells they have available.

The Large pack is 135 kWh with 15 kWh modules while Max pack is assumed to be 180 kWh or Large + 3x 15 kWh modules. So you'd actually make 4 Large pack for the same batteries in 3 Max pack trucks.

It would be nice if Rivian was more forthcoming about the Max, but as a public company, and a new one at that, there are pretty tight constraints to what they can reveal without adversely impacting share price. I suspect that we won't really know what their solution for the Max is until sometime late next year.

In the latest Rivian Stories video Tony said they planned to reveal more information about Max Pack in the next couple weeks. Conveniently that's after the 9 November investor call, but I'm going to assume we'll here something before the end of November. I'm not planning to make any changes until they release this additional info.

Thanks, but there is NO FREAKING NEW ENGINEERING NEEDED for the MAX PACK,
all Rivian has to do, IT PRODUCE THE DAMN MAX PACK....!!!!

Of course there's engineering needed. Even if they were to stick with the 400V system they need to make the physical pack larger, revise the BMS calibration, and a host of of things things. That said, I'm almost certain at this point it'll be on the 2nd gen 800V platform which means a lot more changes. To boot, from what we've heard previously the Bosch motors are 400V, so they'd have to use the new Enduro motors that have only (at least announced) been tested in a single-motor drive unit configuration...i.e. for the Dual Motor + Max Pack configuration. My very speculative guess is they don't have dual-motor Enduro drive units at all yet which would be why Quad Motor + Max Pack has been delayed again.

 

[Riviandog]

"If we kick the can far enough down the road, maybe our biggest supporters and longest term res holders will just drop or cave-in and compromise for a 300mile pack" - Poser Leadership

 

[crashmtb]

In the latest Rivian Stories video Tony said they planned to reveal more information about Max Pack in the next couple weeks. Conveniently that's after the 9 November investor call, but I'm going to assume we'll here something before the end of November. I'm not planning to make any changes until they release this additional info.

I was not aware that information was coming, because Rivian didn’t tell me! I only found out by seeing the Rivian stories interview after the fact, which I only dug up because I saw it mentioned in passing in some thread or other.

If someone is not an active subscriber to Rivian stories or is not on that forum, there‘s a very good chance they don’t know more max pack information is imminent. I know now some max pack people got an email mentioning that was coming, but I didn’t. So annoyed.

 

[emoore]

AND, with that SIZEABLE PROFIT, charging $16,000, for approximately ONLY 140 additional miles, they will REFUSE TO MAKE THE MAX PACK...!!!

Ugh. You are exhausting.

 

[crashmtb]

YEA, except I AM NOT EXHAUSTED...!!! I'm just GETTING STARTED...

I like how you are SHOUTING at ARBITRARY points in your STATEMENTS. It’s peppy.

 

[the long way downunder]

Don’t forget:
T-Top (removable roof panels)
5-seat R1S

I think the removable roof was an idea, not part of the launch spec.
Here's what i found:
https://www.rivianforums.com/forum/threads/removable-roof-coming-in-2022.3537/

I assume the 5-seat R1S is not cancelled or subject to further R&D.
Maybe I'm slipping back into be generous in forgiving Rivian their shortcomings. : )

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