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We have the 21" AT's and have 23k on them.....they have probably another 5k left. I would say 99% of the time we drive in ALL-PURPOSE mode.

I am following this thread to see what others are getting. We live in NorCal and where we are located, we might.......M I G H T get an 1" of snow a year. We do get freezing temperatures at times, but nothing dramatic.

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You said above the NOKIANS are what your father has and loves them and he is picky about the tires. What is the "per" tire cost?

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My father got his mounted last week, so not much experience, but immediately he was struck by how quiet they were as well as having better road feel and handling characteristics and comfort. He’s pretty critical of new things (especially things he perceives fall under the category of costing money he shouldn’t have to have spent—which with nearly bald OEM tires at 22k, seems like a reasonable thing to be grumbly about), so his very positive feedback right off the bat can either be an indication that they are indeed great, or just way better than his prematurely aging/awful Pirellis. I’ve never been particularly impressed with the Pirelli ATs, even when new (at least in any variable/low traction environments), but I also have almost nothing personally to compare them with on a Rivian (except a couple weeks with factory 22” wheels/tires on a loaner R1S).

I’ll update with more as he experiences more off-road and/or harsh weather conditions. I’ve been traveling the last 5 days, and didn’t get a chance to try his truck with the Nokians, so again, very limited experience so far. I may be getting a pair soon, if I don’t decide to push my Pirelli’s until winter and get some Hakkapeliittas (still trying to decide).

His Nokian Outpost nATs were $361/tire plus mount and balance. He also got a sidewall blowout replacement insurance on them and a much-needed alignment (for reasons we don’t understand, since Rivian aligned it and replaced a couple prematurely worn tires 6-9 months ago), bringing the total to somewhere near $2k with tax. The shop initially tried to charge him $420 per tire but when I told them we can get them for $380, they came back with offering $360 ??‍♂
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As of today they’re still not available through my chosen vendor unfortunately.
They do seem to be a popular option though!
 

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As of today they’re still not available through my chosen vendor unfortunately.
They do seem to be a popular option though!
Outpost was my second choice swapping off the AT4W. Any luck with the Toyos? The Gresham, OR discount tire ordered direct from Toyo. I’m still at 2.20 mi/kWh after 250 miles, from your posts on the other tire threads I think you’ll be happy with the A/T 3 EV.
 
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I still need to call, it’s sadly not a frivolous expense either so I’m trying to budget for it as quickly as I can before I’m out of time. But yes on paper the Toyos do seem like the best bet for me if I can get them.
 

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Just wanted to update the thread. In the end I chose the KO3 in the stock 20” size. I bought them from Americas Tire and had them installed this morning (Fullerton, CA location). They did a great job, were versed in the Rivian procedures and had everything mounted and balanced quickly.
I had them set the pressure to 55psi and I’m going to assess whether or not I go up to 60 after watching my range for a bit.

Minimal experience so far but very positive impression.
 

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Just wanted to update the thread. In the end I chose the KO3 in the stock 20” size. I bought them from Americas Tire and had them installed this morning (Fullerton, CA location). They did a great job, were versed in the Rivian procedures and had everything mounted and balanced quickly.
I had them set the pressure to 55psi and I’m going to assess whether or not I go up to 60 after watching my range for a bit.

Minimal experience so far but very positive impression.
Very close to pulling the trigger on the KO3's, limping w/the Scorpions at 41k miles ?

It's basically between the KO3's and the Bridgestone Dueler Ascent A/T; looking forward to your initial update.
 
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Ok initial micro-impression with a couple days of use and some highway driving to LA.

On all but the roughest roads they are super smooth still (experimented with Moderate and Soft suspension settings). Still at 55psi.

I’m expecting some range loss but my highway average was about 2.12 which I am VERY happy with. It’s basically identical to what I was getting with the Pirellis for highway driving. I’m seeing about 1.8-1.9 around town which again is within my expectations.

I’m overall very happy with them, they look awesome, are driving great and I’m eager to get them off road to see how they do.
 

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Ok initial micro-impression with a couple days of use and some highway driving to LA.

On all but the roughest roads they are super smooth still (experimented with Moderate and Soft suspension settings). Still at 55psi.

I’m expecting some range loss but my highway average was about 2.12 which I am VERY happy with. It’s basically identical to what I was getting with the Pirellis for highway driving. I’m seeing about 1.8-1.9 around town which again is within my expectations.

I’m overall very happy with them, they look awesome, are driving great and I’m eager to get them off road to see how they do.
How's the noise compared to the Pirellis?
 
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No noise complaints. I never thought the Pirellis were particularly quiet or noisy and the KO3s feel in the same class there. My worn Pirellis were definitely getting loud and especially around 40mph would emit a slightly annoying drone.

Edit: I would like to add one thing. I didn't think about the increased diameter of the KO3s over the Scorpions and it DOES appear to fill the wheel well a good deal more. This so far has been a non-issue in Standard height and obviously High or Highest is no problem either, but it might rub at the low and lowest height (I'll need to test this).
 
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Pirellis & jacked the cost past $525 per tire...), I just order from Tire Rack & had a local shop

Still happy with those wheels? I just noticed them, and there don't seem to be a lot of reports about them.

Is the 9" width a problem?
 

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I have noticed they stick out a 'tick" more than the Pirellis ,but other than that they are great tires & actually a Rivian OEM tire on the R1S G2's, which is why I sided with them. 5,000 miles on them & 1st rotate done (no balance needed) and they are doing fine, just hope I get 25k or more...
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