R1 Refresh announcement soon?

[Rivian_Hugh_III]

Why is a visual refresh expected when they have clearly stated on earnings calls that there won’t be any visual differences from the factory revamp and that all changes will be internal?

Google “Osborne Effect” for your answer. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=osborne+effect

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[Jacquesass]

5/7 is the earliest we’ll get real info - we’re in the “quarterly earnings quiet period”.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quiet_period?wprov=sfti1

 

[Ecupip]

This is from the Illinois investment announcement. People are speculating on Twitter that this is the refresh since it is just coming off the line. I don’t really see any differences:

The light bar and headlights look revised in these photos. Unless it’s lighting playing tricks, the current light bar doesn’t have a dark/shadow appearance when it’s off. The headlights look shorter too. I wouldn’t be surprised too if it’s an Easter egg photo op of the changed R1.

 

[usofrob]

The tow hooks look like there's tape over them.
The lighting there is very unnatural. It could effect the perception a little bit.
I think the new sensor suite is basically confirmed. So, that might have a new camera housing.

 

[mkg3]

The most important update I'm looking forward to is the cost reduction per vehicle. All the feature changes mentioned in the linked autoevolution site point to significant cost reduction and margin expansion.

The most interesting option mentioned was the worker truck. R1T Pro for fleet and working low priced version to compete with F150 and Silverado worker trucks. Definitely lower range with LFP and RWD, mechanical suspension. Hope it comes in less than $50K

 

[bdwalters]

the refresh is going to be primarily be changes on the manufacturing side to improve efficiency and costs. You likely won’t notice any changes to the vehicle itself so current inventory isn’t going to be devalued. To drivers/owners there will be no difference.

Then why is Rivian so desperately trying to get rid of current inventory?

 

[WhisperPickle]

Google “Osborne Effect” for your answer. https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=osborne+effect

Yes, I’m well aware of the Osborne effect.

Per RJ: “80% of the new features will be backwards compatible with current models. The remaining 20% require new hardware”.

Per Wassym: New hardware is updated suite of sensors and cameras and non-backwards compatible features are updated Driver+ system and Summon function.

Other hardware changes:
-removal of tow hooks
-redesigned (slightly smaller) headlight and fog light units
-redesigned side mirrors
- minimal front grille changes
-smoked light bar option
-piano black lower bumper
-new wheel options
-updated wireless phone charger
-addition of slate and evergreen color options
-removal of forest green interior

 

[Hayseed_MS]

Are we sure the white one is an R1S and not an R2? This is a photo op in regards to the factory changes and R2 and there is an R1S in green.

 

[peytonrg]

The light bar and headlights look revised in these photos. Unless it’s lighting playing tricks, the current light bar doesn’t have a dark/shadow appearance when it’s off. The headlights look shorter too. I wouldn’t be surprised too if it’s an Easter egg photo op of the changed R1.

Looks 3D like the new R2

 

[gtrivian]

Are we sure the white one is an R1S and not an R2? This is a photo op in regards to the factory changes and R2 and there is an R1S in green.

yes R1S, but only can tell for sure based on the chrome trim

 

[Rivian_Hugh_III]

Why is a visual refresh expected when they have clearly stated on earnings calls that there won’t be any visual differences from the factory revamp and that all changes will be internal?

Yes, I’m well aware of the Osborne effect.

Per RJ: “80% of the new features will be backwards compatible with current models. The remaining 20% require new hardware”.

Per Wassym: New hardware is updated suite of sensors and cameras and non-backwards compatible features are updated Driver+ system and Summon function.

Other hardware changes:
-removal of tow hooks
-redesigned (slightly smaller) headlight and fog light units
-redesigned side mirrors
- minimal front grille changes
-smoked light bar option
-piano black lower bumper
-new wheel options
-updated wireless phone charger
-addition of slate and evergreen color options
-removal of forest green interior

Color me confused. I’m reading your quotes above where you attack me for suggesting there will be physical changes, asking what would make me think that given that nothing has been announced. I reply. Then you reply that yes you’re aware of multiple physical changes in the offing and include bullet points of a number of them. So which is it? Do you doubt the changes or are you already familiar with them and agree?

 

[cwang089]

I'm confused too. Maybe his definition of refresh is different than ours.

 

[cwang089]

Even if the refresh is a few hundred pounds lighter, it was worth the wait for me since I am buying with a voucher. If I was leasing, I'd rather jump on the lease deal

 

[ja_kub_sz]

Hope they lease the new models. If so I'm in!

 

[Zorg]

We now got our answer. Refresh is not coming out soon. Batteries Inc podcast mentioned that it's coming but not soon.

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