Tesla Supercharging/ Magic dock Updates?

[R1S88]

I think the Magic Dock has a longer cable, which will help with the charging port being on different sides. An adapter doesn't solve that problem.

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[A Land Rover Forever]

I hear you both on those accounts!

 

[SANZC02]

I think the Magic Dock has a longer cable, which will help with the charging port being on different sides. An adapter doesn't solve that problem.

I agree if they are longer but the pictures of the ones I have seen were not longer cables.

 

[brancky3]

Why? It would be WAY more efficient to retrofit <10,000 chargers to use Magic Dock (Tesla has described the retrofit as simple and inexpensive) rather than mandating that millions of individuals each buy an adapter and carry it around with them in case they might possibly want to use a Supercharger somewhere.

But that also explains it - Tesla can now sell millions of adapters, instead of paying for <10,000 Magic Dock retrofits. Nothing wrong with them maximizing profit, just don't mistake this for Tesla being motivated by higher goals. And don't expect them to charge you the same amount as they do Tesla owners, unless perhaps you pay a monthly membership fee.

In their Magic Dock announcement, Tesla promised to make 3,500 Superchargers available to non-Tesla vehicles by the end of 2024. So far they have 12 sites - 9 in NY and 2 in CA, which opened in March and 1 new one in TX which opened a few weeks ago.

Uhhh your math is a little off there. Tesla has like 12,000 V3 stations, each with 8-20 stalls. Even if we go with the 3,500 number, that’s a pretty significant investment for them for something that’s a temporary hurdle. New vehicles won’t use CCS charging in a year or two.

 

[manitou202]

Uhhh your math is a little off there. Tesla has like 12,000 V3 stations, each with 8-20 stalls. Even if we go with the 3,500 number, that’s a pretty significant investment for them for something that’s a temporary hurdle. New vehicles won’t use CCS charging in a year or two.

They have about 48,000 stalls globally. Many are not V3. Only 5,200 stations (again not all V3).

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1290490/tesla-quarterly-supercharger-volume-worldwide/

 

[Tarkus]

I need the adaptor TODAY!. Tarkus is three weeks old tomorrow & already has 4000 miles, with more to come...

 

[lslick23]

Looks like they installed another one in Ontario Canada, so who knows what their plan is.
https://www.teslarati.com/tesla-magic-dock-superchargers-canada/

 

[Autolycus]

Uhhh your math is a little off there. Tesla has like 12,000 V3 stations, each with 8-20 stalls. Even if we go with the 3,500 number, that’s a pretty significant investment for them for something that’s a temporary hurdle. New vehicles won’t use CCS charging in a year or two.

It’s 12,000 v3 chargers total, not 12k sites.

 

[SolartoEV]

The joke with all of this is Tesla is just having a power trip in America. In the EU they use J1772. In China they have 2 ports on their vehicles. So making this a Tesla only charger america kinda seems fishy

 

[brancky3]

It’s 12,000 v3 chargers total, not 12k sites.

Ah! Didn’t realize that.

 

[Autolycus]

Ah! Didn’t realize that.

DOE data from a month or two ago showed 1,847 Tesla stations and 20,040 total ports in the US. A large % of those are v1 and v2, which won’t work with the Magic Dock or with any adapters.

 

[jimmyb2]

DOE data from a month or two ago showed 1,847 Tesla stations and 20,040 total ports in the US. A large % of those are v1 and v2, which won’t work with the Magic Dock or with any adapters.

I believe the level 1 and level 2 stations do actually work with adapters … Tesla Tap Mini adapter for one.

 

[EVsinROC]

Honest questions, why should Tesla bear the cost to retrofit SC’s? If CCS provided same speed and availability (# chargers & uptime), would this even be a conversation?

EV buyers who need more than 200 mi/day, should have done more research on SC networks. Uneducated buyer is root cause. Tesla drivers don’t have same complaints.

 

[WorldComposting]

Honest questions, why should Tesla bear the cost to retrofit SC’s? If CCS provided same speed and availability (# chargers & uptime), would this even be a conversation?

EV buyers who need more than 200 mi/day, should have done more research on SC networks. Uneducated buyer is root cause. Tesla drivers don’t have same complaints.

From what I've heard if Tesla wants federal money they need to have CCS which is why they are looking at magic dock.

Part of the issue is that some locations where Tesla has chargers it appears nothing else is coming in. I can't speak as to why but as an example the NJ Turnpike has Tesla chargers and that is it nothing else unless you exit the highway. For those going between DC and NYC this is a long stretch with only a few fast charging options.

Yes Tesla thought ahead and built out there network but the problem seems to be that others networks can't seem to get into those same areas along major routes.

This would be solved quickly if Tesla would just sell an adapter which they already have as shown with magic dock.

 

[R1Tom]

Honest questions, why should Tesla bear the cost to retrofit SC’s? If CCS provided same speed and availability (# chargers & uptime), would this even be a conversation?

EV buyers who need more than 200 mi/day, should have done more research on SC networks. Uneducated buyer is root cause. Tesla drivers don’t have same complaints.

I assume Tesla has done the math and retrofitting will provide a reasonable rate of return.

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