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To the OP, is the charger on a dedicated circuit or could it be that something else is hooked into that circuit too? Just something to check.
Does anyone have their charger on a shared circuit? I was told that was a big no no.

Though I guess it could be electrician error/sloppiness.
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Open the panel and put a current meter on the line and see what it measures at idle. I am also curious to see on mine. If it uses more than 50mA(12W), I will be very surprised.

EDIT: For my Wallbox Pulsar charger, Gemini says between 2 and 5 watts. I am going to measure mine when it stops raining.
Depends if you have a PUP1 or PUP2 - they disabled the always on LED ring for PUP2 reducing the idle power consumption by a massive amount. (its also an option to turn off on PUP1)
 

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I agree with the responses saying there's something wrong here. An average draw of 250W when the vehicle isn't plugged in means something is getting mighty hot! I see only three options: either the measurement was done incorrectly (I've slipped a decimal place or two more than once!), there is something else on the circuit (and a relatively big something else--6 kWh/day is significant!), or there is a very dangerous defect in the charger--honestly, if that were the problem, I think you would have had a fire by now.

Good luck and keep us posted!
 

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Does anyone have their charger on a shared circuit? I was told that was a big no no.
I don't, but a couple of friends do. The car charges well after the dryer would ever run, so no problem. I have no idea what a big no-no is, but all it takes is logical usage of the loads.
 

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I don't, but a couple of friends do. The car charges well after the dryer would ever run, so no problem. I have no idea what a big no-no is, but all it takes is logical usage of the loads.
The no-no comes from the potential of both things being turned on at the same time and the circuit being sized to run only one at a time. People can and do make mistakes, it's human nature. Best case you trip the breaker, worst case the wiring melts and you start a fire.
 

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I ordered one like this just to try.

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Got clamp meter today and here to report results from my dedicated EV charging breaker on service panel. I have Grizzle 40A mini portable on 14-50 outlet. Usually plugged in and ready to charge 24/7.

When idling = 0.03A or 30mA
When charging = 39.3A

It’s roughly about 7W and consume 5kWh/month idling.


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Kinda curious why you wouldn't want it to be on if you are both not there.
Again, there was no real reason - I wasn't worried about theft, or energy use. I just did it because I wanted to. Now reading about 'Phantom charger energy use' maybe it was a good idea! Ultimately I guess it's safer - not having a live 48 A cord outside the house when nobody is around. Mostly though I like that the dog hears the contactor click when I pull in, so she knows that I have arrived and will be waiting for me at the door!
 

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Got clamp meter today and here to report results from my dedicated EV charging breaker on service panel. I have Grizzle 40A mini portable on 14-50 outlet. Usually plugged in and ready to charge 24/7.

When idling = 0.03A or 30mA
When charging = 39.3A

It’s roughly about 7W and consume 5kWh/month idling.
Yeah, we complain about phantom drain in our vehicles, but we tend to forget about vampire drain in our houses. With all the phone chargers, routers, wireless access points, cable boxes, etc. etc. it is $10 to $20 a month for the average house.
 

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My house uses 620w perpetually. I've given up on tracking down all of the devices. Sometimes other consumers are surprisingly high, for example the rest of the 2k right now is just a vacuum. With our low electric rates, the 620w is about $23, whatever.

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My house uses 620w perpetually. I've given up on tracking down all of the devices. Sometimes other consumers are surprisingly high, for example the rest of the 2k right now is just a vacuum. With our low electric rates, the 620w is about $23, whatever.

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Using Sense? I had forgotten about it - used to have it installed, but when my generator was swapped out they didn't put it back in the box. Going to have to dig it out and get it up and running again!
 

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Yeah, it's an older Sense system. Today, I'd get one of the more advanced systems with a monitor for every breaker. It's pretty good though.

It was interesting to see how much power the AC uses in August here, when pre-cooling it.
 

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Does anyone have their charger on a shared circuit? I was told that was a big no no.

Though I guess it could be electrician error/sloppiness.
I have a shared circuit, with two formerly JuiceBox 48amp chargers on it (not really what you're getting at). JB had load balancing, before they abandoned the US market and screwed all their customers. I replaced the boards with OpenEVSE, and have each set at 24amps right now, until they release load balancing software.
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