Update 2024.23 Details (For Gen 2 Rivian)

[TRap015]

You still had MPH, but above that on the screen it displayed the km/h. Also the speed limit on the screen showed as km/h. Figured I'd have to change some setting to be able to display (which I didn't want to bother with), but was cool to see it just change on the fly. It happened seconds after I crossed the border. Then when I crossed back, it was back to what it looked like originally. Related the highway assist coverage was pretty good.

LOL...i changed the setting to km/h because i started driving trying to match km/h with mph because km/h was smaller font, especially i was told camera will take pic even if its 1km/h over speed limit....At least i get like +12mph leeway here

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[freshpow]

we all plopped quite a bit of money and it is understandable that people are upset that these new features that were promised are not being delivered.

We were never "promised" lane change on command or any of these features.

Why would Rivian not upgrade for free or give us the option for a paid hardware upgrade in Gen 1s to support the new platform? It is better than buying a new car.

Because they're in the business of building and selling vehicles, not retrofitting them to please early adopters. Better for who? Better for you certainly, but not for the company. Our Gen1 quads are incredible vehicles and many of us bought them at bargain prices.

 

[beatle]

Auto lane change kinda sucks anyway. Even in a Tesla it is pretty slow to react and is way too cautious sometimes about initiating the change. Or it gets "stuck" in its lane with your signal on even with nobody in your blind spot. Having the ability to flick the blinker on and make the change myself is a better experience.

As long as they continue refine and improve the following behavior and lane centering on major highways, and ensure it resumes quickly after lane changes, I'll be happy. That's the only place I really care about ADAS anyway. I don't need a system sophisticated enough to pilot me through a drive thru.

 

[BeanEW]

It's like buying a new computer... two years later, it is an antique. Sadly, our R1s are a giant computer.

 

[Chewy734]

It's like buying a new computer... two years later, it is an antique. Sadly, our R1s are a giant computer.

You can upgrade the components in most computers though to get more/better capabilities… just saying.

 

[InTheMatrix]

I could care less about Gen2, just give me my damn Google smart cast, YouTube, and apple
Music already! Lol

 

[srkz]

We were never "promised" lane change on command or any of these features.

They literally did promise hands free driving at the announcement event, on the website even after deliveries began, and from the CEO's mouth several times before they quietly turned the camera off and scrubbed it from history.

They obviously intended to make it happen or they wouldn't have included a driver monitoring camera in the first place. What happened was they included hardware that wasn't good enough and they failed to figure it out so they just gave up and offered no public apology, explanation, or anything to Gen 1 owners that bought the vehicle on the promise of future updates bringing hands free ADAS like Bluecruise etc.

The continued lack of a driver monitoring system in the cabin on Gen 2 implies pretty heavily that they don't have high hopes for the Gen 2 R1 platform to advance to Level 3 autonomy and that it's just a data collection platform for the long-term goal of building out their own autonomy platform for hopefully Gen 3 R1 or maybe R2. But in the meantime Gen 2 will also get promises of future growth but end up just stuck with whatever Mobileye's EQ5 has to offer in their off the shelf SoC, like auto lane change and 360 degree visualization.

 

[mpshizzle]

Why would Rivian not upgrade for free or give us the option for a paid hardware upgrade in Gen 1s to support the new platform? It is better than buying a new car.

The gen 2 hardware is ENTIRELY different under the skin. The wiring and communication used between modules is completely different. In order for the new modules to be transplanted into gen 1 they'd have to

A) tear apart the entire vehicle and re-wire everything with gen 2 wiring.
B) engineer an entirely new set of modules that has the new cameras and processor but still works with the old wiring and still tear apart the entire vehicle to put in all of the new modules.

Both of those options would result in immense time and cost (my guess would be $20k or more). Plus the fact that they're tearing apart an entire vehicle and there will risk of damage at worst or tons of rattles and squeaks at best.

I'd argue that it WOULD be in Rivian's best interest to offer paid upgrades to gen 1 were it feasible. They know people who bought gen 1 aren't going to voluntarily loose 10s of thousands on resale and purchase gen 2. So this isn't a move to get current owners to switch. The vast majority simply won't. RAP+ is going to be a paid subscription and they'd want as many subscription payers as possible.

So the reality is yes, for Gen 1 owners it does suck. You bought an expensive vehicle hoping Rivian could deliver on their initial vision of autonomy. But they ultimately couldn't fulfill that with current hardware. So they upgraded. And unfortunately it's a big enough change it's not realistic to retrofit

 

[allisgoodman]

I would expect an autonomy hardware retrofit will be available to gen2 owners when the next gen comes out after watching the investor meeting. If that's not happening, Rivian really fuxks this up.

 

[freshpow]

They literally did promise hands free driving at the announcement event, on the website even after deliveries began, and from the CEO's mouth several times before they quietly turned the camera off and scrubbed it from history.

They obviously intended to make it happen or they wouldn't have included a driver monitoring camera in the first place. What happened was they included hardware that wasn't good enough and they failed to figure it out so they just gave up and offered no public apology, explanation, or anything to Gen 1 owners that bought the vehicle on the promise of future updates bringing hands free ADAS like Bluecruise etc.

I can understand the disappointment but feel bad for you if that was the sole or even main reason you dropped $80k+ on a vehicle. I don't care about losing out on the autonomous driving features because I have so much damn fun driving my R1T myself. I've never experienced Bluecruise or FSD so maybe just don't know what I'm missing out on but would imagine it will take the Gen2s a number of years to catch up to those systems anyways.

 

[mpshizzle]

I would expect an autonomy hardware retrofit will be available to gen2 owners when the next gen comes out after watching the investor meeting. If that's not happening, Rivian really fuxks this up.

I also watched the investor meeting, and to me it sounded like they're planning on sticking with the current platform for a pretty long while at least. They did mention that R2 is supposed to have the same system

 

[srkz]

I can understand the disappointment but feel bad for you if that was the sole or even main reason you dropped $80k+ on a vehicle. I don't care about losing out on the autonomous driving features because I have so much damn fun driving my R1T myself.

Very much one of the main reasons. It drives well for a 7,000lb pickup truck but at the end of the day 99.9% of the miles that I drive are at a medium speed going in straight lines on a freeway. The driving dynamics don't really matter all that much to me because I'm not racing it at the track, I'm driving to the grocery store or the lake or the office the same as I do every other day.

 

[tragicmonkey049]

Rivian's executives remember (or learned in Executive School) the Osborne Effect and probably work hard to keep functionality roadmap descriptions vague and noncommittal... If I had a description of Gen 1 versus Gen 2 features back in 2021, I probably wouldn't have waited.

When I discovered that my 2019 Prius could not connect to Android Auto, but the 2020 model could, I was annoyed. When I further discovered that the wiring harness was completely changed so that even though a 2020 head unit would bolt into the dashboard, I wouldn't be able to connect it, I was angry - for about 5 minutes. Then I shrugged and bought a mounting bracket to hold my phone up on the dashboard.

Which ... I also do in my Rivian ... 4 years later...

 

[Aquinas]

I don't expect all the Gen 2 features in my Gen 1 truck.

I would be pissed, though, if Gen 1 software stops advancing altogether. There's a lot of improvements that can be made on the Gen 1 hardware that I hope they make good on.

 

[aho]

• Updated the exterior lighting charging animation. When the charge session reaches the charge limit you set, the center light bars stay green. The segments at full brightness indicate the changing level; any remaining segments are dimmed.

Wasn't the Gen 1 supposed to have this originally? I was told when I did the test drive a long while ago people were mistakening the LED bar was broken when it was only have illuminated. Would be nice to get this for the Gen 1 if it's supported. I thought it was a cool feature.

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