It's like they shipped the car with debug level set to high. Well, version 1.0 is bound to have opportunities for optimization - hopefully we don't have to wait for the release of a new car to fix this and the optimizations can be done via software/firmware updates and not requiring hardware changes.
I'm not sure what "this" refers to specifially in your reply, but if you mean phantom drain I'd agree it's not fixed. I'm not sure it can be fixed at least with current lithium battery tech, but several companies have made the drain reasonable. My vehicle has been idle for 3 days with sub 40 temps overnight and currently it's lost 1%. At this rate I could leave it for over month before it runs down to zero. Tesla's had years to improve so I'll give Rivian a bit of time to address it.
I don't think people are expecting it to be "fixed". I think they are expecting it to be mitigated. Different people do have different ideas on how much it needs to be mitigated.
My 2016 Model S works well. The first 24 hours I might lose 2-4 miles but after that less than a mile a day. I can go away for 2 weeks and will lose less than 12 miles when it is in my garage. I would expect Rivian to lose more because of the watts per mile but would expect it to be less than 20 miles in 2 weeks with gear guard off.
Yeah I was commenting earlier in this thread or on another that in the two-three weeks after I got my R1T I didn't drive my EV6 once, maybe moved it in and out of the garage. I didn't lose more than 1% of battery in that time. It's not like Kia/Hyundai has been making EVs that long either.
How do you know if your R1t is "ready" or "off"? Does your app still talk to R1T when it is off?My truck is off at service right now. I was also having an issue with the truck not letting me remote condition occasionally because it thought there was someone in the vehicle. It would make sense that if that's still happening, that the truck wouldn't actually go to sleep based on what's written in the R1T manual.
The opposite makes more sense to me. Larger pack means Rivian should lose less miles if electronics have the same amount of waste in watts. If both Rivian and Mini lose 1 KWh in 24 hours. Mini lose 4-5 miles, Rivian lose 2-2.5 miles.
I stand corrected, that makes sense, not because of the battery size but the consumption.
That's a good question. Right now if I look at the app, I see this:
Not long before this, Tesla had a terrible issue with phantom/vampire drain. It was bad enough people were disabling remote access just to prevent extended loss on trips.
It raises the question what “sleep“ means if it still can tell the app what SOC is and if it still can scan for your smartphone. Sleeping with one eye open still uses some energy.That's a good question. Right now if I look at the app, I see this:
The truck is at the Rivian service center, I can't say I remember seeing this "Wake Vehicle" thing before. Since sleep is the opposite of wake, I have to believe that it's in sleep right now. Hopefully that means they fixed the issue that was causing it to always be awake. Hopefully it isn't just able to sleep just because my phone isn't 50 feet away anymore. I'll check the battery level again in the morning.
Telematics is likely always on. It probably periodically wakes subsystems to check stuff like the voltage level/temperature of the pack/cells. When the truck is "Ready", that means all the subsystems are going to be active and in a state where the vehicle is prepared to drive. I assume this is what happens if you manually wake the vehicle.
I wonder how much energy goes to talking to the mothership. Can you turn off WiFI easily through the settings or you have to delete your network completely?
