Should Be Excited, But Feeling Nervous

[Sully151]

Well, tomorrow is the big day. After a three year wait, two Guides, and a handful of configuration changes, my Compass Yellow LE R1S will be in my garage tomorrow night (I hope it fits. I better get to cleaning)

I should be super excited and I am, but I am also feeling a bit nervous.

I woke up at 2:30 this morning and spent the next three hours reading every CCS NACS thread on this forum and others.

Am I literally dropping $88k on a car that will be obsolete when it comes to charging? I know, theoretically there will be an adapter and that I will use my home charger 98% of the time, but it still kind of bums me out.

What if Elon opens the SC network only to vehicles with the charger in the right location?

Or doesn’t open the SC’s to Rivian at all?

What if Rivian looses so much business because of this that it’s the final nail?

I should be thinking of all the adventures we will have in our Rivian. Vacations and road trips. Camping in the back with wife, kid, … or dog. Showing it off to friends and helping people see the fun and function of EV’s. Instead, I am nervous about a F’ing plug.

Talk some sense into me! Please!

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[godfodder0901]

Well, tomorrow is the big day. After a three year wait, two Guides, and a handful of configuration changes, my Compass Yellow LE R1S will be in my garage tomorrow night (I hope it fits. I better get to cleaning)

I should be super excited and I am, but I am also feeling a bit nervous.

I woke up at 2:30 this morning and spent the next three hours reading every CCS NACS thread on this forum and others.

Am I literally dropping $88k on a car that will be obsolete when it comes to charging? I know, theoretically there will be an adapter and that I will use my home charger 98% of the time, but it still kind of bums me out.

What if Elon opens the SC network only to vehicles with the charger in the right location?

Or doesn’t open the SC’s to Rivian at all?

What if Rivian looses so much business because of this that it’s the final nail?

I should be thinking of all the adventures we will have in our Rivian. Vacations and road trips. Camping in the back with wife, kid, … or dog. Showing it off to friends and helping people see the fun and function of EV’s. Instead, I am nervous about a F’ing plug.

Talk some sense into me! Please!

As you said, you'll charge at home 95%+ at home anyway where you control the infrastructure. So the other issues won't really matter to you, and the adapter route will be more than sufficient in those cases.

 

[Killer95Stang]

Best thing to do is enjoy your new Rivian and stop visiting Rivian Forums every day. This place, like every other forum is am emotional roller coaster. If you have an issue, seek out the resolution to your problem by visiting the forums. Don't let the drama on these boards create the problems for you. Serious, it sounds to me like ignorance would be bliss in your case.

 

[md2023]

I have had my R1T for about 6 weeks. I was very nervous coming from a Tesla and access to the superchargers. I canceled my order once.
I'm glad I finally went through with the purchase. I am sure others have had frustrating charging experiences, but I haven't yet (it will happen eventually). Like you, I charge 98% at home but on my two longer trips I had little to no difficulties. I tend to over plan when going to unfamiliar places so that helped. Charging at home has been a breeze. Nothing is perfect, but the truck is great, imo. We are enjoying the WE camping trips and general utility. Plus its fun to drive. GL and enjoy.

 

[diehlryan]

Think about how many CCS vehicles are on the road today. It would not be a wise decision for any charging network to drop CCS in favor of Tesla. IMO, they will likely have both. There might be some challenges with crowding by introducing access to Tesla at CSS chargers but I dont see it happening.

 

[oskeei]

Just completed 3,500ish mile road trip from Central Illinois to the southeast and back. Was a blast driving our Mustard R1S and with some planning, we managed the charging hiccups. The charging stops helped me to stop and "smell the roses" a bit. Also got to talk to a lot of folks about EVs who had never seen a Rivian. I got more compliments about the color and the headlights then I expected as I know it's a love or hate thing for both.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

CSS isn’t going away overnight or probably not in the next 5 or so years. You have plenty of time to adapt. These aren’t like VCRs or DVD players. No one is expecting anyone to throw their CSS car away.

Whatever happens with charging this is a non issue in the near to mid term.

 

[DuoRivians]

Charging standard isn’t changing any time soon. It’ll take years to play out and there will be adapters, regardless.

In 5 years of owning Teslas, I’ve used superchargers maybe 15-20 times total. And I would have had non-Tesla alternatives in nearly all of those cases

 

[moosetags]

We took delivery of our dear Opal at the Factory in Normal six weeks ago after a 4 1/2 year wait. We were also nervous on delivery day. We almost couldn't believe that it was finally happening. From the moment we saw her in the delivery room, we were smitten. We've got about 2,00 miles on her now and we are still excited. Tomorrow will be great. Take pictures and post some.

Brian

 

[jjswan33]

Don't believe all of the NACS hype. Unlike Ford and GM Rivian has been investing in building infrastructure and I suspect the cost to switch would be higher than staying the course. Furthermore Tesla has already committed to opening 7500 chargers to all EVs by the end of next year.

So in a world with a growing Rivian Adventure Network (33 stations by my last count) an expanding CCS network and an at least partially open Tesla SC network we are all going to be just fine. On the West Coast at least the combo CCS network is more than adequate.

 

[clownsmashd]

Where there's a will there's a way. I've been getting by pulling a camper with just 100 miles of range and can find usable chargers (The two stalls I'm blocking here were actually down). More and more stations are coming on line and money from IRA requires CCS connection.

 

[zefram47]

Most important thing to note is that the White House already came out saying that NEVI funding will require support of CCS, even if NACS is included. I wouldn't worry about CCS going anywhere for probably the next decade. We still have some CHAdeMO infrastructure around even though a small fraction of EVs ever shipped with it. There are around 700k non-Tesla EVs on the road by one estimate I found and the vast majority of those will be CCS cars.

 

[SASSquatch]

Well, tomorrow is the big day. After a three year wait, two Guides, and a handful of configuration changes, my Compass Yellow LE R1S will be in my garage tomorrow night (I hope it fits. I better get to cleaning)

I should be super excited and I am, but I am also feeling a bit nervous.

I woke up at 2:30 this morning and spent the next three hours reading every CCS NACS thread on this forum and others.

Am I literally dropping $88k on a car that will be obsolete when it comes to charging? I know, theoretically there will be an adapter and that I will use my home charger 98% of the time, but it still kind of bums me out.

What if Elon opens the SC network only to vehicles with the charger in the right location?

Or doesn’t open the SC’s to Rivian at all?

What if Rivian looses so much business because of this that it’s the final nail?

I should be thinking of all the adventures we will have in our Rivian. Vacations and road trips. Camping in the back with wife, kid, … or dog. Showing it off to friends and helping people see the fun and function of EV’s. Instead, I am nervous about a F’ing plug.

Talk some sense into me! Please!

My friend, please do not worry about your vehicle being obsolete regarding charging. Ok. I want you to rest easy on this.

We still don't know which direction the majority of automakers are going to go in deciding to adopt NACS or stick with CCS. Please do not listen to the gleeful bloviations of the uninformed people on this forum screaming that NACS is the only future.

Dozens of auto manufacturers currently have CCS as their standard (including Rivian) and 3 have chosen NACS. Let's keep things in perspective.

Even if momentum continues to grow towards NACS - there are too many vehicles on the road, including Rivians that have the CCS standard. By 2025 when GM and Ford have purported to be building NACS into their vehicles there will be 1 -1.5 Million + CCS EVs on the road. That will require continuing to build CCS chargers (at a minimum - they can also have NACS) for decades just to service those vehicles alone.

The federal government has stated unequivocally that all charging infrastructure being developed with the $5 Billion that is earmarked for Fast Charging must contain CCS charging at a minimum (it doesn't preclude adding NACS).

Rivian may also decide that they are already too invested in the RAN network being CCS and because it is controlled by Rivian and is plug and play for Rivian owners (just like NACS is for Tesla) it doesn't have any of the issues that most people complain about with 3rd party CCS chargers. People confuse the terrible experience with 3rd parties with the CCS port. It has nothing to do with the port.

Sleep easy my friend. You have nothing to worry about.

 

[SoCal Rob]

Well, tomorrow is the big day. After a three year wait, two Guides, and a handful of configuration changes, my Compass Yellow LE R1S will be in my garage tomorrow night (I hope it fits. I better get to cleaning)

I should be super excited and I am, but I am also feeling a bit nervous.

I woke up at 2:30 this morning and spent the next three hours reading every CCS NACS thread on this forum and others.

Am I literally dropping $88k on a car that will be obsolete when it comes to charging? I know, theoretically there will be an adapter and that I will use my home charger 98% of the time, but it still kind of bums me out.

What if Elon opens the SC network only to vehicles with the charger in the right location?

Or doesn’t open the SC’s to Rivian at all?

What if Rivian looses so much business because of this that it’s the final nail?

I should be thinking of all the adventures we will have in our Rivian. Vacations and road trips. Camping in the back with wife, kid, … or dog. Showing it off to friends and helping people see the fun and function of EV’s. Instead, I am nervous about a F’ing plug.

Talk some sense into me! Please!

I’ll start with the tl;dr - Congratulations, enjoy your new R1S, and please post pics!

Last week at this time I was feeling some of the same things you are. We tidied up our garage to make sure that we had enough room for our R1S, I skimmed through the owner’s guide online to refresh my memory on the details, and I was so excited it was all I could do to distract myself.

The day of delivery I woke up, started counting down the hours and minutes, and got a headache. I generally don’t get headaches and I figured it was from the excitement and uncertainty: Would they find some issue and cancel last-minute? Would there be some major issue I discovered at delivery? Maybe I should’ve checked my blood pressure.

Anyway, it all worked out great! We even did a charge at an EA station in high temperatures during a road trip over the weekend and it was almost boring: all stalls empty, no problems with initiating the charge, all stalls appeared to work, etc.

 

[Donald Stanfield]

Anyway, it all worked out great! We even did a charge at an EA station in high temperatures during a road trip over the weekend and it was almost boring: all stalls empty, no problems with initiating the charge, all stalls appeared to work, etc.

Totally the same sort of experience with my first travel charge. Reading the descriptions of some people on here I thought I was going to encounter some Mad Max style issues fighting other EV owners at the charging station because of how bad charging sounded. It was exactly as uneventful as going to the gas station. Truth be told I was a little disappointed it wasn't more difficult/ exciting as if you talk to some of the people on here and more so non EV owners fast charging is like landing someone on the moon.

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