Toyota Touts 745-mile range, 10 minute charge for Solid-State battery

[Sgt Beavis]

IF Toyota can successfully bring this to market it definitely close the use case gap that justifies ICE based vehicles. IMO, 10 minutes for charging is more important than the range. If we can get 300+ miles of range in 10 minutes or less, it’s game over for ICE. Only diehards and collectors will keep using them.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...ange-10-minute-charge-for-solid-state-battery

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[NC-Rivian]

IF Toyota can successfully bring this to market it definitely close the use case gap that justifies ICE based vehicles. IMO, 10 minutes for charging is more important than the range. If we can get 300+ miles of range in 10 minutes or less, it’s game over for ICE. Only diehards and collectors will keep using them.

https://www.motorauthority.com/news...ange-10-minute-charge-for-solid-state-battery

Game changer for sure! If it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

 

[Craigins]

I just don't see the 10 min charging time.

They'd need something like a 1+MW charger.

 

[ads75]

I’ll get excited for stuff like this if it makes it to market. Otherwise, I just see it as Toyota throwing skeptical news out there to try and keep their name relevant in the EV market.

 

[COdogman]

Looks like Toyota has discovered how to play the EV battery speculation game like everyone else.

 

[R1Tom]

I hope it starts in new Lexus GX. That would be a sweet rig with Lexus build quality and service.

 

[av8or]

Didn’t they announce in 2017 that they had production ready solid state batteries and all their cars even hybrids would have them by 2022?
A month ago their “head scientist“ said there are no battery breakthroughs on the the horizon, maybe in 10-20 years.

 

[rbr19870445]

Like the hydrogen fuel cars coming to market?

I absolutely love my 3rd gen 4Runner but this is absolutely comical coming from a company that gave us the Prius and absolutely dropped the ball on the electrification to Tesla.

The only Toyota EV has at market, the BZ4X, bricked on a youtube reviewer (Kyle Conner) and also severely derates fast charging when it seems it wants to.

I agree with Toyota in that you can't fully rely on the full electrification of transportation, especially in cold climates and/or heavy towing applications, but this smells awfully of bullshit.

Also, where is my hybrid 4Runner Toyota?

 

[Goose]

I just don't see the 10 min charging time.

They'd need something like a 1+MW charger.

That depends. If it can hold max charge without derating current chargers might be able to provide enough juice. Keep in mind, this is probably all in perfect lab controlled environments.

 

[Zorg]

I just don't see the 10 min charging time.

They'd need something like a 1+MW charger.

Exactly. It would require really fast chargers

 

[TexasBob]

That depends. If it can hold max charge without derating current chargers might be able to provide enough juice. Keep in mind, this is probably all in perfect lab controlled environments.

In a zero losses, zero derate scenario, a 100 kwh recharge in 10 minutes requires a 600 kw charger, right?

 

[Craigins]

In a zero losses, zero derate scenario, a 100 kwh recharge in 10 minutes requires a 600 kw charger, right?

And with those ranges, that would be 7.45 miles per kWh. That's double of efficiency of the Lucid Dream.

 

[RivAW]

At this point Toyota is just making up nonsense to try to stay relevant. They missed the boat and they are too “all over the place” with their future plans/lack thereof to accomplish anything. They should stick to their expertise in high-quality reliable ICE vehicles and at the same time invest in developing battery or charging tech or some real EVs (quietly)….until they find something that can actually be succesful.
They just ridiculous now

 

[Goose]

In a zero losses, zero derate scenario, a 100 kwh recharge in 10 minutes requires a 600 kw charger, right?

And with those ranges, that would be 7.45 miles per kWh. That's double of efficiency of the Lucid Dream.

They don't list a recharge amount, they don't specifically say a 0-100% charge in 10 minutes. This language leaves them a LOT of wiggle room. I am a big fan of my Toyotas but unless they have just secretly been working some kind of voodoo this would be a HUGE leap in battery tech. I thought I saw Solid State wasn't expected in mass until after 2030.

 

[WSea]

Looks like Toyota has discovered how to play the EV battery speculation game like everyone else.

Exactly. Their current EV is one of the slowest charging vehicles on the market

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