Fewer drive modes for Dual-Motor?

[Dark-Fx]

Throttle control is noticeably different between modes, but more subtle differences are motor "tuning" and suspension dynamics, with rally being a prime example where it "unlocks" the hyraulic sway control to allow for more corner to corner articulation.

First time I blasted through a paved corner exiting a bumpy dirt road was eye opening, feels like the thing is going to roll over compared to just leaving it in all-purpose. Definitely not a fan of using Rally in situations where the tires have significant traction combined with high speeds. Cornering on dirt roads is great though.

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[MountainBikeDude]

I would use Rally Mode daily if it didn't disable the proximity sensors and cruise control. I am not sure its any softer than all purpose, but it combines the soft ride of all purpose with the sport throttle response, which is my ideal daily driver setup. I have submitted this feedback several times but I doubt its anything they really care about changing. So for now I stay in all purpose and drop to sport when needed.

This was touched on in a Reddit post a few weeks ago which Wassym, Rivians SVP of Software, commented on and seemed keen to implement the idea of the sway control being deactivated automatically while in AP mode below a certain speed to make parking lot/speed bumps more comfortable without the stability sacrifice at higher speeds.

 

[BourboNole]

This was touched on in a Reddit post a few weeks ago which Wassym, Rivians SVP of Software, commented on and seemed keen to implement the idea of the sway control being deactivated automatically while in AP mode below a certain speed to make parking lot/speed bumps more comfortable without the stability sacrifice at higher speeds.

Interesting, so I guess Rally really is better for speed bumps, but what I want is the sport throttle mapping without the sport ride height compromise. You can move it to soft in sport, but with the lower ride height it is too bouncy.

 

[Dark-Fx]

Interesting, so I guess Rally really is better for speed bumps, but what I want is the sport throttle mapping without the sport ride height compromise. You can move it to soft in sport, but with the lower ride height it is too bouncy.

Rally's throttle mapping is no-where near the same as sport mode

 

[Triangle]

I don't understand drive modes. The descriptions are vague as are the actual effects. I would rather the car just figure out the best settings automatically without me having to guess at settings (and pick the wrong one).

Sounds like ALL-PURPOSE mode is for you!

 

[Brewbud]

I read somewhere that the performance option for the dual motor will add another 100 HP and add back some of the drive modes. A quick search only turned up the added HP but I do remember reading about additional drive modes.

 

[VSG]

Why would you expect the drive modes on a dual motor vehicle to be the same as on a quad motor vehicle? You can't control all four wheels individually in the dual motor version, so some things that the quad motor can do are not possible in the dual motor version.

Even when comparing the "same" drive mode between the dual and the quad motor, you will find they necessarily do things differently. All Purpose works differently on the dual, for example.

Once the dual motors start to ship, and as Rivian learns from the dual motor telemetry data and customer feedback, I expect that they will make some new modes and will change and improve the initial drive modes over time. As they have done with the quad motor.

 

[AbhorViolence]

I read somewhere that the performance option for the dual motor will add another 100 HP and add back some of the drive modes. A quick search only turned up the added HP but I do remember reading about additional drive modes.

Sport. Only on Performance.

 

[RivAW]

I don't understand drive modes. The descriptions are vague as are the actual effects. I would rather the car just figure out the best settings automatically without me having to guess at settings (and pick the wrong one).

They have descriptions of the modes, what they do and what their purpose is online. It's pretty intuitive.....Ie "all-purpose", "off road", "snow", "sport". With due respect, if that's too daunting for you, then just leave it in all-purpose with "auto" height adjustment...

 

[docwhiz]

They have descriptions of the modes, what they do and what their purpose is online. It's pretty intuitive.....Ie "all-purpose", "off road", "snow", "sport". With due respect, if that's too daunting for you, then just leave it in all-purpose with "auto" height adjustment...

I do understand the descriptions.
My point was that I think the car should sense road conditions and automatically adjust without the driver having to guess the best setting as road conditions change

 

[racekarl]

I do understand the descriptions.
My point was that I think the car should sense road conditions and automatically adjust without the driver having to guess the best setting as road conditions change

How you want the vehicle to react to each situation may be different, and there is no way (other than you telling it by selecting a drive mode) for the vehicle to tell what your intent is.

For example, in one low-traction situation (sand) some wheel spin may be desirable, whereas in another (snow) it would not be. The vehicle can tell it's getting low traction, but it can't necessarily tell why it's getting low traction, nor how you want it to respond to that low traction.

 

[dleepnw]

rally mode gives the best ride quality? i had no idea. gotta go test that out.

that being said, no one knows how the dual motors will ride and how exactly those drive modes are tuned. unfortunately, its wait and see until they are out in the wild, you get to test drive, or some YTer get their hands on one.

 

[docwhiz]

How you want the vehicle to react to each situation may be different, and there is no way (other than you telling it by selecting a drive mode) for the vehicle to tell what your intent is.

For example, in one low-traction situation (sand) some wheel spin may be desirable, whereas in another (snow) it would not be. The vehicle can tell it's getting low traction, but it can't necessarily tell why it's getting low traction, nor how you want it to respond to that low traction.

The vehicle should be smart enough to sense road conditions and adjust automatically without the driver having to guess on the best setting.

 

[freshpow]

The vehicle should be smart enough to sense road conditions and adjust automatically without the driver having to guess on the best setting.

@racekarl just explained in pretty simple terms and gave a good example of a scenario where the vehicle would actually be the one "guessing on the best setting" vs. you knowing whether you're in sand or snow and simply pressing a button. You should be smart enough to know which drive mode you'd like to use in a given road condition.

 

[godfodder0901]

The vehicle should be smart enough to sense road conditions and adjust automatically without the driver having to guess on the best setting.

Is there a current vehicle you can reference that has this feature? All the vehicles I know of require a mode selection from the driver in order to select from the full range of drive modes. For example, Kia has a Smart Drive mode, but it only allows a limited drive mode selection.

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