Regenerative braking - revisited

[R1Tom]

I totally agree with this.

I drove my wife's Rav4 Hybrid and I was just dying to get back into the R1S

Me too. I have a vehicle with V6 and 8 speed auto and another with a supercharged V8 and a manual. Of all of the Rivian is definitely the most pleasurable to drive. I love 1 pedal driving as it is implemented in the Rivian.

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[mkg3]

Like everything else in the world, some loves it and some hates it...

What I do like is having options.

Rivian needs to provide option for level of regen. That way, everyone will be happy, don't you think???

 

[R1Tom]

Like everything else in the world, some loves it and some hates it...

What I do like is having options.

Rivian needs to provide option for level of regen. That way, everyone will be happy, don't you think???

I believe they do have that option.

 

[mkg3]

I believe they do have that option.

They do not. Only standard and high. Where is low other than snow and off road modes? Also there is none option either.

 

[TollKeeper]

I thought I remember reading you could disable the Regen in snow mode?

 

[R1Tom]

They do not. Only standard and high. Where is low other than snow and off road modes? Also there is none option either.

You said 'option for level". I mistakenly thought that standard and high were what you meant.

I would be good with low and no.

I think what OP wants can't be done in Rivian without different hardware. Which is no regen and then first action from brake pedal to actually be regen and when thwt hits max, then start adding friction brakes.

 

[Destreyf]

To echo the sentiment in this thread, this is my first EV, I've driven a Model 3 before. Initially with the Rivian I found myself constantly trying to coast which felt really jarring, however after the first couple weeks I came to love the one pedal feel of High Regen.

Currently my Rivian is in the shop for some minor adjustments & alignment, and my rental is an ICE vehicle, adjusting to actively using the brakes felt strange for the first couple days. I think there's some value in coasting, and could be more efficient in certain circumstances.

However in my opinion, learning to find the sweet spot with the Rivian feels more natural and the high regen means I spend virtually zero effect moving to the brake pedal.

I honestly thought it was going to take more effort to change my driving habits of the last 15+ years, but the Rivian is such a pleasure to drive, and I can't wait to get it back from the service center (eventually).

 

[md2023]

Me too. I have a vehicle with V6 and 8 speed auto and another with a supercharged V8 and a manual. Of all of the Rivian is definitely the most pleasurable to drive. I love 1 pedal driving as it is implemented in the Rivian.

Agreed. Once I got used to it on my model 3, I loved it. And love one pedal driving on the Rivian. It's a matter of taste and it would be nice to have options for those who prefer otherwise, but I am good.

 

[Rivdog]

The mandatory regen is my only serious complaint about the Rivian. Say whatever you want about “being good at it” but there is no one who can drive it as smoothly as if you could coast. It’s something I can deal with, even though I wish I didn’t have to. My MME could coast and it was the smoothest, most enjoyable (daily) driving experience I’ve ever had.

The mandatory regen has become a serious problem for me because my 2 year old has recently started having motion sickness in our cars. In my wife’s ICE, it’s still a problem, but in the Rivian, it’s nearly impossible to drive more than 20 minutes with her anymore before she starts vomiting. I focus intently on keeping it as smooth as possible and find myself more focused on trying to balance the regen than the rest of my driving responsibilities. I’ve basically decided that we can’t take my daughter in my car anymore for trips longer than about 20 minutes and that really freaking sucks.

It can easily be fixed with a software update and I really, really hope Rivian allows us the option.

 

[mkg3]

You said 'option for level". I mistakenly thought that standard and high were what you meant.

I would be good with low and no.

I think what OP wants can't be done in Rivian without different hardware. Which is no regen and then first action from brake pedal to actually be regen and when thwt hits max, then start adding friction brakes.

typing too fast and forgot the ess....

I agree about the OP's Porsche brake pedal comparison. What Rivian can do is to map regen options onto one of the steering wheel rollers or the toggles to switch between No-Low-Std-High,

 

[CommonSense]

Does not sound like you are very good at it, sorry.

or maybe just more self aware?

How do you prevent the bucking when you hit bumps? Maybe you aren’t driving in sport?

 

[mkg3]

Agreed. Once I got used to it on my model 3, I loved it. And love one pedal driving on the Rivian. It's a matter of taste and it would be nice to have options for those who prefer otherwise, but I am good.

It's not about getting use to it. It's about gaining more range on the highway driving.

High energy recover does not equal high energy efficiency.

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I've been driving Tesla for almost 6 yrs and Rivian for 2 months. I can feather the throttle and moderate the amount of regen but it always on.

Try backing up slowly out of your garage or driveway. How about moving up just few inches? The ability to roll is underrated at all speeds.

 

[R1Tom]

The mandatory regen is my only serious complaint about the Rivian. Say whatever you want about “being good at it” but there is no one who can drive it as smoothly as if you could coast. It’s something I can deal with, even though I wish I didn’t have to. My MME could coast and it was the smoothest, most enjoyable (daily) driving experience I’ve ever had.

The mandatory regen has become a serious problem for me because my 2 year old has recently started having motion sickness in our cars. In my wife’s ICE, it’s still a problem, but in the Rivian, it’s nearly impossible to drive more than 20 minutes with her anymore before she starts vomiting. I focus intently on keeping it as smooth as possible and find myself more focused on trying to balance the regen than the rest of my driving responsibilities. I’ve basically decided that we can’t take my daughter in my car anymore for trips longer than about 20 minutes and that really freaking sucks.

It can easily be fixed with a software update and I really, really hope Rivian allows us the option.

I agree on the motion sickness issues. I have an adult daughter that suffers from it, and she really dislikes riding in the Rivian. But then she isn't a fan of the way I drive period, so that is a contributor too.

 

[CommonSense]

I wonder if a lot of people's dislike to the regenerative breaking stems from an underutilization of ACC (Adaptive cruise control)? I'll use ACC nearly every waking moment of driving, even on city & residential streets.

this does work, it is my hack to deal with the bucking I would otherwise get on some really bumpy roads on my daily drive, where I’m bouncing around in the seat enough that I can’t hold the petal still.

 

[Zoidz]

I’ll mention my mantra that “The accelerator is not an on/off switch.” You learn that quickly when learning to drive stick. What happens if you wind out to redline in 1st gear and then lift completely off? Do that a few times and you quickly learn to find and maintain the sweet spot position Instead of lifting off.

Being used to that and hydrostatic tractor transmission, I find the Rivian implementation of OPD pretty awesome and easy to use. I accept that your mileage may vary.

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