Conflict at the Supercharger

[PBRAZ]

Broken record, but I squarely blame Rivian for this mess by purposely not locating it's charge port on a part of the vehicle that made it compatible with both SC and Tesla home charger locations.

Their bandaid fix was the NACS adapter but they should have provided a NACS extension cable instead. Higher cost for sure although people would have gladly paid for it.

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[Robin]

If I am following the rules then what does the reason I’m there matter? No one would know why I’m there other than to charge. Remember I’m not actually doing anything out of the ordinary, yet you somehow think it would be my fault if a Tesla owner had a meltdown while I was charging at a SC. I would only be doing what Elon and Tesla allowed me to do…

I don’t live my life avoiding doing what I need to do because there are people like Mr. Muscles out there. He is the problem and I could honestly give a crap what people like him think.

Any Tesla owner who is upset about seeing Fords and Rivians at their superchargers should either talk to their therapist, complain to Elon, or go to a SC station that is still exclusive to Tesla. Otherwise the rest of us will have to figure out how to get along until every station can accommodate every EV. Maybe Elon should have waited until that was the case to open up his network?

???

 

[Dark-Fx]

Broken record, but I squarely blame Rivian for this mess by purposely not locating it's charge port on a part of the vehicle that made it compatible with both SC and Tesla home charger locations.

Their bandaid fix was the NACS adapter but they should have provided a NACS extension cable instead. Higher cost for sure although people would have gladly paid for it.

I blame Tesla for not considering the use cases that cause an obstruction on my vehicle from preventing my use of the superchargers that are poorly positioned for that use case.

 

[caiudalmau]

7 charges at TSC's with my R1T at this point and can happily say I've never encountered anything like this. Most are excited to see new faces/vehicles. I've had a couple that have looks of disapproval, but that could be about anything these days.

I am on a long road trip from PHX to Blaine WA. Great RAN charging for much of the way. Kingman Az, Barstow CA, Buttonwillow CA, Santa Nella CA.
I stopped in Davis CA to visit family. Surprisingly, although Davis is a very envoronmentally conscious city, it is a void for EV charging. Lots of level 2 destination chargers, a Tesla supercharger that is not open to Rivian, 4 EA's of which only 3 work, 2 EvGo's one functional. So needing something a bit faster than what my hotel trickle charger could give me, I ventured 9 miles to Woodland to a Tesla Supercharger that was open to Rivians. It is an 8 station location across the street from a Costco. I went on a Saturday. When I got there there were 3 stations open. The layout required that I block 2 to use one. This is going to cause a lot of problems as the adapters reach the market. BTW, I bought an A2Z just for this trip and it has functioned flawlessly the 3 times I used.

Back to the Supercharger. After I plugged in there was only one station left. A Tesla pulled up next to me and I apologized and explained that the layout required me to use the cable from his charger. He said no problem and moved to the vacant station. Next guy pulls in a few minutes later. I apologize, tell him I will only be 10-15 more minutes and he says no problem and pulls out to wait for the next station. Right away a Model S with lots of flashy trim add ons pulls in. I apologize and explain the situation to the young man in the muscle shirt with his girl friend beside him. He immediately goes into a testosterone fueled rant about me having no right to be there, it's for Teslas, it's worng for me to take two chargers. I say I am sorry, can't be helped and I will be done in 10 minutes. He tells me it can be helped by getting my non Tesla POS out of there. He continues to rant at me and my non Tesla and that I have no right to do this. I politely explain that I do have a right. That Elon sold the right for me to be here charging knowing that it would take 2 stations. I say you need to complain to Elon because he's the one who sold out your exclusive use. He continues on then moves his car in a sulk. A few minutes later my 10 minutes is done and I unhook and leave, although by this time I was considering passive aggressively continue to charge way past 70%! Anyway as I pull away He continues to yell while impressing his GF.

I can certainly see how if these stations are not retrofitted with longer cables or dual side access a situation like this could escalate. A little more testosterone in the Model S and a lot more in the Rivian (I am 77) and it could well have gotten out of hand.

I am going to make a sticker that says: My R1S identifies as a Tesla

 

[ModelXer]

I am on a long road trip from PHX to Blaine WA. Great RAN charging for much of the way. Kingman Az, Barstow CA, Buttonwillow CA, Santa Nella CA.
I stopped in Davis CA to visit family. Surprisingly, although Davis is a very envoronmentally conscious city, it is a void for EV charging. Lots of level 2 destination chargers, a Tesla supercharger that is not open to Rivian, 4 EA's of which only 3 work, 2 EvGo's one functional. So needing something a bit faster than what my hotel trickle charger could give me, I ventured 9 miles to Woodland to a Tesla Supercharger that was open to Rivians. It is an 8 station location across the street from a Costco. I went on a Saturday. When I got there there were 3 stations open. The layout required that I block 2 to use one. This is going to cause a lot of problems as the adapters reach the market. BTW, I bought an A2Z just for this trip and it has functioned flawlessly the 3 times I used.

Back to the Supercharger. After I plugged in there was only one station left. A Tesla pulled up next to me and I apologized and explained that the layout required me to use the cable from his charger. He said no problem and moved to the vacant station. Next guy pulls in a few minutes later. I apologize, tell him I will only be 10-15 more minutes and he says no problem and pulls out to wait for the next station. Right away a Model S with lots of flashy trim add ons pulls in. I apologize and explain the situation to the young man in the muscle shirt with his girl friend beside him. He immediately goes into a testosterone fueled rant about me having no right to be there, it's for Teslas, it's worng for me to take two chargers. I say I am sorry, can't be helped and I will be done in 10 minutes. He tells me it can be helped by getting my non Tesla POS out of there. He continues to rant at me and my non Tesla and that I have no right to do this. I politely explain that I do have a right. That Elon sold the right for me to be here charging knowing that it would take 2 stations. I say you need to complain to Elon because he's the one who sold out your exclusive use. He continues on then moves his car in a sulk. A few minutes later my 10 minutes is done and I unhook and leave, although by this time I was considering passive aggressively continue to charge way past 70%! Anyway as I pull away He continues to yell while impressing his GF.

I can certainly see how if these stations are not retrofitted with longer cables or dual side access a situation like this could escalate. A little more testosterone in the Model S and a lot more in the Rivian (I am 77) and it could well have gotten out of hand.

As a Tesla owner and an officer of the Tesla Owners Club of New York State, I apologize for the dimwit in the Model S. Apparently the word is not getting out to Tesla owners. I will try to spread the word and hope that our members treat you as the first owners did.

 

[misterturbo]

The best way to de-escalate conflict is by being apathetic. LOL.

Arguing over who deserves the privilege to pay a corporation money just seems weird to me. "Only I can pay them, you are not allowed to pay them" is a weird flex.

 

[Redline]

Broken record, but I squarely blame Rivian for this mess by purposely not locating it's charge port on a part of the vehicle that made it compatible with both SC and Tesla home charger locations.

Their bandaid fix was the NACS adapter but they should have provided a NACS extension cable instead. Higher cost for sure although people would have gladly paid for it.

This is on Tesla and Tesla alone.

 

[Hillbilly]

It's not Rivians fault that the nerds at Tesla thought that their cables were long enough to satisfy everyone. They should have dated more to know that it's a lie when they're told it's a good size.

 

[PBRAZ]

This is on Tesla and Tesla alone.

I don't know, they were here first after all. Implemented short charging cables which makes the most sense from a cost, power, and reliability standpoint. If a charge port can be located anywhere on a car and you put it in an incompatible place, I don't see how you can blame the established infrastructure.

 

[Redline]

I don't know, they were here first after all. Implemented short charging cables which makes the most sense from a cost, power, and reliability standpoint. If a charge port can be located anywhere on a car and you put it in an incompatible place, I don't see how you can blame the established infrastructure.

And knowing all this, they opened up their network.

 

[Phatman113]

I've had a couple that have looks of disapproval, but that could be about anything these days.

Maybe the purple? <3

 

[LivingInKaos]

Maybe the purple? <3

Bite your tongue....

Actually, I've gotten more positive comments about the color from Tesla owners than Rivian owners

 

[Stationmaster]

I can't wait till the NACS DC extension cord is available hopefully later this Summer.

I see that A2Z has one .... sOOn ... but @ $300.ºº ??? Seems very expensive.

 

[PBRAZ]

And knowing all this, they opened up their network.

Wasn't necessarily by choice, they needed the government incentive and that was a requirement.

Anyway...just found this and apparently Tesla is releasing one as well:

https://a2zevshop.com/products/tesla-nacs-dc-supercharger-extension-cord

 

[Redline]

I'm not spending $300 to help out Tesla.

They can retrofit and move to V4s.

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