Free Rivian Adapter status?

[Autolycus]

I have no issues with A2Z’s quality or slide lock. The distance the slide travels is short and the tactile feedback is subtle. Plus, there are no high contrast visual reference to see easily that it is either locked or not. But these are very minor gripes since all you have to do is give the adapter and plug a quick tug to confirm lock. And it will not charge if not locked. So the slider is the first place to check if charging fails to start.

I'm a little leery of even asking someone this question because it suggests I want someone to test something that I would be reluctant to test myself, but just in case someone has already tested it or has gotten a definitive answer from A2Z:

Is there something that effectively prevents the slide from being toggled and then the charger disconnected while the vehicle is charging?

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[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

I'm a little leery of even asking someone this question because it suggests I want someone to test something that I would be reluctant to test myself, but just in case someone has already tested it or has gotten a definitive answer from A2Z:

Is there something that effectively prevents the slide from being toggled and then the charger disconnected while the vehicle is charging?

The slide lock is effectively a on/off switch. If you have the adapter in port and Supercharger plug fully seated, but forgot to lock the slider, it will not charge until you lock it. If during charging, charging will stop if you slide it to the unlock position.

 

[Autolycus]

The slide lock is effectively a on/off switch. If you have the plug fully seated but forgot to lock the slider, it will not charge until you lock it. If during charging, charging will stop if you slide it to the unlock position.

So someone else could walk over to my car while it's charging, slide the switch on the adapter and kill my charging session? And presumably use that charger for themselves? In light of the way Teslas vs. non-Teslas will be parking at most stations, I can imagine Tesla owners parking in what they consider the "correct" spot and taking the charger away if left unattended.

IMO, with all adapters, there needs to be a physical mechanism for making sure someone can't stop my charging session if my car is locked and charging. With adapters there also needs to be a physical mechanism to make sure someone can't take my adapter while my car is locked, regardless of charging status.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

So someone else could walk over to my car while it's charging, slide the switch on the adapter and kill my charging session? And presumably use that charger for themselves? In light of the way Teslas vs. non-Teslas will be parking at most stations, I can imagine Tesla owners parking in what they consider the "correct" spot and taking the charger away if left unattended.

IMO, with all adapters, there needs to be a physical mechanism for making sure someone can't stop my charging session if my car is locked and charging. With adapters there also needs to be a physical mechanism to make sure someone can't take my adapter while my car is locked, regardless of charging status.

Yes. So, if you care/worried, simple solution is don't charge in public while unattended. Same can happen to any other adapter. If charging stops and you're away, you should get a notification through your Rivian app.

 

[edman007]

So someone else could walk over to my car while it's charging, slide the switch on the adapter and kill my charging session? And presumably use that charger for themselves? In light of the way Teslas vs. non-Teslas will be parking at most stations, I can imagine Tesla owners parking in what they consider the "correct" spot and taking the charger away if left unattended.

IMO, with all adapters, there needs to be a physical mechanism for making sure someone can't stop my charging session if my car is locked and charging. With adapters there also needs to be a physical mechanism to make sure someone can't take my adapter while my car is locked, regardless of charging status.

That's how it works, and I don't think it's any different without an adapter. You push the button on the charger and it stops charging and unlocks. That's true with CCS, and NACS. And I don't think you want anything else, it means if the charger catches fire a firefighter can't stop it? Is that what you want?

 

[Autolycus]

That's how it works, and I don't think it's any different without an adapter. You push the button on the charger and it stops charging and unlocks. That's true with CCS, and NACS. And I don't think you want anything else, it means if the charger catches fire a firefighter can't stop it? Is that what you want?

Tesla superchargers do not allow the cable to be disconnected from a locked Tesla. EDIT TO ADD: I can't find confirmation on Rivian right now and haven't tested it myself, but I found confirmation that at least Ford Mach-E's also do not allow a CCS1 cable to be disconnected while the vehicle is locked.

If a firefighter is relying on using their hand to push a button to shut off electricity and then remove a connector while there's an active station or vehicle fire, far too many things have already gone wrong for it to actually make sense for the firefighter to touch the connector.

 

[MidnightRivian]

Our R1S is in upper 800 range. What VIN are they shipping out to most recently?

Thanks!

I believe the first batch of orders for Tesla adapters sent out by Rivian went to early R1T customers.

 

[Chewy734]

Thanks!

I believe the first batch of orders for Tesla adapters sent out by Rivian went to early R1T customers.

R1S owners likely have a long wait… ?

 

[Pinksky]

Thanks!

I believe the first batch of orders for Tesla adapters sent out by Rivian went to early R1T customers.

That makes a lot of sense. I

Thanks!

I believe the first batch of orders for Tesla adapters sent out by Rivian went to early R1T customers.

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate that. Out of all the things I've seen an read i didn't even think about that.

 

[Pinksky]

That makes a lot of sense. I appreciate that. Out of all the things I've seen an read i didn't even think about that.

 

[azbill]

Got my official adapter from Ford today and tested it twice. I only got an average of 115kw from 15-50%, with the truck indicating limited by the charger. I have had one even worse experience at a magic dock that only gave me 35kw. My Mach E got a normal charge rate, but it was at a different site. Not sure Tesla chargers are really much better than EA.

 

[A2ZEV]

Lead time for A2Z is about 4 weeks. You are probably days away from receiving notice of a shipping label being created. From there it's about 48 hours before any movement in tracking.

Lead time is now about 1 week and half to two weeks. We are clearing orders up until the 1st of June by the end of the week, maybe sooner.

Thank you.

 

[A2ZEV]

too bad A2Z doesn't have any adapters. ordered a month ago and nary an update. perhaps Rivian will beat them to the finish line at The Count's house?

Hi there,

1 month ago orders are all shipped, please send us an email or a PM with your order number, we will look into it.

Thank you.

 

[UnsungZero_OldTimeAdMan]

Not sure Tesla chargers are really much better than EA.

You can’t make that assumption with just one experience at one Supercharger. My sessions have been high 180s. 50-80% SOC. Others have seen 210-ish at other locations. All accessible locations near me have over 15 chargers per site, while EA sites are 2-6 (and busy until past 1AM). That alone make Superchargers superior.

 

[A2ZEV]

I had a chance to borrow a neighbors official Tesla adapter (from Ford), and tested it against the Lectron and A2Z. Lectron was by far the highest quality build. It feels the most solid, and the disconnects are firm. The A2Z adapter, is smaller, which I like, but the constitution doesn’t feel as quality as the Lectron or OEM Tesla adapter. Additionally, the A2Z adapter’s sliding locking mechanism is not a good design, IMO. I found myself needing to be more careful when connecting and disconnecting with the vehicle and NACS dispenser.

I kept the Lectron adapter and sold the A2Z locally.

I will also add as a disclaimer, that I did receive the faulty/recalled Lectron adapter, however was able to get a replacement, no questions asked.

Thank you for your feedback, it is important for us to hear from customers. That said, we have transmitted your feedback to the team and will improve accordingly. We are sorry you did not like the A2Z adapter, we can assure you that it is made of the highest materials and up to the highest materials. We can admit and agree that the lock is not the most intuitive mechanism. Something new will be announced soon. Have a wonderful summer and thank you for initially trusting us, it is much appreciated.

- A2Z EV

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